Wikidata:Property proposal/The Athletic player ID

The Athletic player ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports

   Not done

Description	identifier for a sportsperson on The Athletic
Represents	The Athletic (Q39087006)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	[A-Za-z0-9]{16}
Example 1	Erling Haaland (Q28967995) → UqdITFAwdmIrBQfd
Example 2	Joe Burrow (Q56860229) → MHPQIoyRCSO0fiiE
Example 3	Aaron Judge (Q16234676) → SFIT5wwDvRYLsber
Example 4	Drew Timme (Q88799464) → HNeHHpLApRovpIJS
Example 5	Paolo Banchero (Q92198887) → 4AtM6kuhg6XMXsS1 (league or competition (P118): National Basketball Association (Q155223)), EClVMWzcdjtJV2DK (league or competition (P118): NCAA Division I men's basketball (Q94861615))
Source	https://theathletic.com/
Planned use	Linking players to stats and news articles about them
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that suggests notability (Q62589316)
Formatter URL	https://theathletic.com/football/player/$1/
See also	Wikidata:Property proposal/The Athletic team ID
Applicable "stated in"-value	The Athletic (Q39087006)
Single-value constraint	yes (separator (P4155): league or competition (P118))
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

The Athletic is a news outlet owned by The New York Times covering a wide range of sports. They now have player pages on their site, which includes statistical information about the player as well as an archive of every article they've ever published that mentions the player.

Note that there are multiple formatter URLs for this property -- the URL includes "football", "nfl", "mlb", etc depending on which sport/league the player is in. However, if you link to the wrong sport, the site will automatically redirect to the correct URL, so it won't cause issues for us (try out the examples above -- besides Erling Haaland, the URL will automatically change from "football" to the correct sport).

If a player has been in multiple leagues (e.g. NCAAF + NFL, NCAAB + NBA), they will end up having multiple pages (see example 5 above). However, I believe The Athletic's system considers all of association football to be one "league", so I don't believe two pages would be created when a player goes, say, from Major League Soccer to the Premier League. Right now I'm proposing that we have a single-value constraint with league or competition (P118) as a separator (P4155). This could become a problem if we had an athlete who played association football (in multiple leagues) and another sport, because then we couldn't use league or competition (P118) as a separator so cleanly. If the situation ever arises, we may need to add sport (P641) as another separator; however, I'm not sure if there is even one player right now who fits that description, so I'm not terribly worried about it. IagoQnsi (talk) 18:19, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Not done no support for creation of this property --DannyS712 (talk) 01:08, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
• Reopened,  Support,
  MisterSynergy Thierry Caro Vanbasten_23 Malore Сидик из ПТУ Mathieu Kappler Lee Vilenski Erokhin Dandilero Blackcat Looniverse
  Notified participants of WikiProject Sports —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 06:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose, not a lot of value --Football Lab (talk) 06:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
•  Not done, no consensus of proposed property at this time based on the above discussion. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 06:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)