User talk:Urdangaray

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Best regards! --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:03, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Babel

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Request

Hello.

Could you at create the articles en:Architecture of Azerbaijan (Republic of Azerbaijan), en:List of Azerbaijani film directors (Republic of Azerbaijan) and en:Bodies of water of Azerbaijan (Republic of Azerbaijan) in Spanish (or request them yourself to other users in Spanish Wikipedia)?

Thank you.

31.200.22.168 15:45, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Potential confusion with ranking

I recently ran into a problem where Scholia wasn't returning all of the awards for Wallace Broecker (Q911079). After a bit of head scratching I noticed that some of the awards were set with a 'preferred' rank.

Ranking is used for when you have a single value that changes over time, like the population of somewhere. The name does make it a bit confusing, but it shouldn't be used for setting a 'favourite' value for things where there are multiple different values, like with awards.

Hope this helps! Let me know if my explanation or the help page doesn't clear it up. Cheers! Aluxosm (talk) 14:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Aluxosm when I was adding Nobelprize motivations T300428#7661347 I saw you had changed some awards to "Preferred rank" on Ernest Lawrence (Q169577) what was your intention? If we start implement different "patterns" like this it will be very difficult to use Wikidata and do SPARQL queries and get the result you expect, feels better that the person doing the query says what prices he/she is interested in retrieving? - Salgo60 (talk) 01:24, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

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Notified participants of WikiProject Award

@Salgo60: There's no debate here to be honest, this is not the way rankings should be used. Looking through Special:Contributions/Urdangaray and searching for Changed claim: award received is the best way to find ones that need fixing, fortunately there don't seem to be too many, or any recent ones. @Urdangaray: Thanks for all of your work with adding links to [eswiki]! Aluxosm (talk) 09:48, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Aluxosm I agree I am not at all a big supporter of the pattern of using Ranking for marking the latest, I feel we maybe should have a new prefix? as wdt gives you the "truthy statement value" e.g. a new prefix wdl could give back the latest statement

• as changing Ranking is not supported by tools like QuickStatements (Q20084080) its not a good candidate to use as a solution

- Salgo60 (talk) 10:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

@Salgo60: Being able to query all of the values (regardless of rank) would be great, as would having support for them in QuickStatements; the idea of a truthiness rank is also interesting. The problem is how to implement stuff like this without completely overwhelming the average user. I've been here a while and I still get confused sometimes with the options we currently have! I don't think that the current ranking pattern is an inherently bad thing though, it could maybe just do with a popup with some instructions the first time you use it. Aluxosm (talk) 16:21, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

@Salgo60: @Aluxosm: Explanations. In the Spanish wikipedia we have templates that are automatically filled in with the data obtained from wikidata. One of the most used is the person' template, that collects the majority of biographical data. In the case of scientists, our template only collected the 5, then 9 and now maybe more, of the Wikidata data, leaving out in the case of great scientists perhaps the most important ones. As a workaround, a librarian suggested that I make that change by altering the priority in wikidata (preferred level). Since the first warning, I have never used it again. I'm sorry for the disturbances. Greeting. --Urdangaray (talk) 10:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Ah, gotcha 👌. Thanks for the explanation, it really helps to highlight where things need fixing; as you found out, most of the time, changes should be made to the templates and not to the data. I'm not sure exactly how this could be implemented, but one option would be to have a single list that ranks the importance of each award, the template could then cross-reference that list and only display the top 5. Don't worry about it too much, stuff like this happens, it would be really helpful if you could remove the rankings if/when you come across them again though. Thanks! Aluxosm (talk) 16:21, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Fellowships are awards

Please don't remove award statements when it's a fellowship as you did here, they are commonly referred to as such. Aluxosm (talk) 08:03, 29 January 2022 (UTC)