Pollys 6139 Guide
Pollys 6139 Guide
Pollys 6139 Guide
DISCLAIMER
I am not a watchmaker and have no formal training in the trade of watchmaking. This is
not put forward as the correct professional way to service and repair a 6139 movement.
AIM
The reason for composing this article is to illustrate how the 6139 movement works and to
offer encouragement to those who have mastered the basic techniques required to service
complication less movements to venture forth and step up to a Seiko chronograph.
RESOURCES
The key element required before starting is to study the technical and repair guides
available in the SCWF resources section. These are invaluable and illustrate and give
detailed instructions how to assemble, lubricate, repair and troubleshoot.
There is also a good YouTube video about how to service a 6139 movement that offers
great insight into the process. It was this video that really gave me the confidence to try
for myself. So Google it watch and learn.
The differences are fairly minor visually so beware if you do not know the provenance of
your spares, its probably best to acquire a complete movement with the calibre marked on
the automatic framework.
An easy way to determine the revisions is to cross reference the part numbers in the
technical sheets.
THE SUBJECT
The movement in this article is the 6139B and has been assembled from the left over parts
of several spares movements, although looking dirty and corroded in places it has been
cleaned. Also to avoid looking like a gorilla the damaged screw heads was not done by
me.
Cleaning techniques are not my specialist subject so I will leave it to the individual to
research their own method.. My method is to soak components in naphthalene/lighter fuel
to dissolve dirt and old oil and sometimes the ultrasonic cleaner but care must be taken
with movement parts as I found some metals stain and tarnish and jewels go awol.
I usually clean and lubricate the Diashock’s and mainspring but this too is outside the
scope of this article. Better information than I can produce does already exist in the SCWF
resources section.
Once clean inspection for wear and damage can be carried out, trial assembly of
components to establish excessive end clearance etc will save time in the long run during
the re-build.
The power train is standard Seiko fare and will be familiar to anyone who has serviced
6309/6119’s and similar calibres. Take the cleaned mainplate, lubricate and fit the centre
wheel. Fit the centre wheel bridge and screw, this is probably unnecessary but I check for
free play.
Then I fit the cannon pinion loosely first and seat it by gently pushing down onto my soft
work mat, it should click into position on the centre wheel shaft. With the mainplate dial
side up fit the stem/clutch. Setting lever and clutch yoke.
Fit the setting lever spring and screws, check the operation of the setting lever and clutch.
Setting wheel, minute wheel and minute wheel bridge next, making sure the chamfered
headed screw goes in the southerly location as viewed in the picture below. Check gears
for free turning. I usually sprag the minute wheel with a cocktail stick and turn the crown
to check the condition of the cannon pinion.
Turn the mainplate over and fit the barrel, escape wheel, third wheel and chronograph
centre wheel (fourth wheel).
The barrel and train wheel bridge is installed next. First make sure the coupling levers are
in their ‘open’ setting to allow the levers to pass over the chronograph centre wheel’s
finger, heart and clutch assembly. It may be necessary to advance the pillar wheel by
pushing the first button operating lever. Drop the bridge over its mounting pillars and
insert the retaining screws a couple of turns. Next manoeuvre the barrel, centre wheel,
third wheel and escapement axels into their respective jewels and nip up the screws
checking for free motion of the gear train when the crown is turned before tightening.
NOTE
It is possible to take the barrel train wheel bridge down further by removing the pillar
wheel and coupling levers if you wish. Do not be tempted to fiddle with the eccentric
screw that attaches the second coupling lever as moving it will upset the clutch lift
adjustment. Or the eccentric screw adjacent to the pillar wheel that the hammer pivots on.
Barrel click and screw. I usually offer the click up with the screw already in it, holding the
click with tweezers in one hand and screwdriver in the other.
Push the first chronograph operating lever to rotate the pillar wheel and ‘close’ the
coupling levers onto the clutch assembly.
Lay the pallet fork in position. Lay the pallet cock over the pallet fork and loosely insert
the screws. I use a cocktail stick to ‘feel’ for location of the pallet fork staffs in the jewels
as the pallet fork is gently manipulated with a fine needle. Maintain position of the cock
with the cocktail stick as the screws are nipped up. Never tighten until 100% sure the
pallet fork is correctly located.
Next comes a fiddly part that will become much easier with practice. Lay the hammer over
its locating axle. Fit the end of the hammer spring over the spring anchor on the hammer
and around the hammer locating axle keeping a finger over the spring then thread it round
the peg located on the mainplate and flyback lever. If the hammer spring will not locate on
the flyback lever try advancing the pillar wheel using the first button operating lever. This
will put the flyback lever in a more favourable position.
Fit the minute recording wheel and intermediate minute recording wheel. The intermediate
minute recording wheel staffs must not be lubricated.
Lay the chronograph bridge loosely over the chronograph gear train and hammer. Locate it
on the screw dowels and insert the bridge screws screwing them in only enough to keep the
bridge in position. Be very careful not to bend the minute recording jumper as it will need
to be manipulated into engagement with the minute recording wheel teeth.
The hammer click will need locating on the hammer post/axle also but this is more robust
and less likely to be damaged.
With a similar technique employed to set the power train wheels manoeuvre the
chronograph centre wheel, minute recording wheel and intermediate minute recording
wheel staffs into their respective jewels and bearings and nip up the bridge screws. Test
for movement of the wheels using a small needle or cocktail stick.
Make sure the intermediate recording wheel is located axially before tightening the screws.
Put a turn or two on the mainspring and fit the balance and cock. I pick up the balance and
cock with tweezers holding the two together and then lay the assembly in position over the
pallet fork and cock mounting posts and loosely fit the screws. Once the roller jewel has
been manoeuvred into the pallet fork and motion achieved the screws can be tightened.
NOTE
At this point I check for chronograph operation in all respects of function and adjustment
and also make sure the movement keeps running when the chronograph is both stopped
and started.
Flipping back over to the dial side fit the date driving wheel, date finger, day finger and
date driving wheel screw. Check for free play.
Hour wheel and date driving wheel next then the date jumper, day/date corrector finger and
date dial.
Now fit the date guard and screws but before tightening push the crown in to work the day/
date corrector finger as it can get trapped beneath the date guard.
trapped corrector
finger
Locate the day dial over the hour wheel and use a small needle to locate the day jumper
into the star.
Apart for the automatic framework and weight that just about concludes the movement
reassembly.
There is a dedicated movement holder for hand setting that allows the hammer/flyback
pusher to be held in and also supports the chronograph centre wheel jewel in the
chronograph bridge. I do not have one of these and resort to installing the movement into
a spare case without the crystal. The only drawback is the chronograph centre wheel
jewel is unsupported.
Hold in the flyback pusher and set the chronograph minute recording hand to zero, pay
attention how far down the minute recording axle the hand is fitted. Too far and it will
touch the dial and cause damage, too little and it could be hit by the hour hand. A reused
hand will probably sit at the right level with gentle pressing. Before final pressing run the
chronograph and reset a couple of times to ensure the hand resets to zero.
Advance the movement via the crown until the date just flips over and set the hour and
minute hands at 12 o’clock in the usual way and check for clearance.
Hold in the flyback pusher and set the Chronograph sweep hand to 12 o’clock. If reusing
the existing one (that is dedicated to the chronograph centre wheel axle) it will pop on
easily and seat with moderate pressure in the correct location.
Fitting a new chronograph sweep hand is more difficult and nerve wracking if you have
mechanical sympathy. It will require a huge amount of pressure to form the hand tube to
the profile of the wheels axle. Without chronograph centre wheel jewel support you will
risk dislodging the jewel and ruining the chronograph bridge. So far though I have fitted
about half a dozen new sweep hands without damage but be warned it is a disaster waiting
to happen. I have a few spare chronograph bridges and that helps to relieve the tension as
I know I have a spare I can fit.
A good movement that has not been messed with will invariably need no adjustments
made to the operating levers, chronograph finger or minute recording wheel click.
TROUBLESHOOTING
The 6139 calibre is a well executed unit designed for economic manufacture and although
because of this it may lack the aesthetic opulence of an expensive Swiss but not reliability,
performance and serviceability.
Mass production has the upside of interchangeable parts which helps when replacing old
worn and damaged components. The spare part/s from a donor movement (of the correct
calibre revision) will invariably fit and work. I have found this true of all the Seiko
calibres I have worked on so far.
From experience I have found that the most problems arise from previous miss
maintenance, broken hair springs, staffs, missing and misplaced components etc. An old
6139 that has sticking pushers and badly resetting hands but has not been tampered with
can more often than not be restored to fully functioning with a service.
The Seiko Technical Guides/Service sheets and their relevant addenda cover
troubleshooting, adjustment and repair in some detail and must be referred to for the
correct manufacturer recommended method and procedure. The following items covered
below I can relate from my own experiences:-
Chronograph pushers
No matter what the problem with the chronograph operation always start with the pushers,
they can cause some strange effects and may result in a simple fix. Check the following:-
Cleanliness, condition of seals, straightness, are there springs fitted?
I have had randomly resetting chronograph hands that was caused by a gummed up flyback
pusher which limits the travel of the pusher/flyback lever and hammer. The hammer does
not strike the heart/s deep enough to reset the hands to a definite zero position.
Day/date quickset
The mechanism is reliable but if pushing the crown struggles to change the day/date there
may be dirt behind the crown or the stem may be too short. As covered in the reassembly
section check the day/date finger is not trapped beneath the date dial guard.
If the chronograph sweephand does not reset to zero and dirty/defective pushers have been
eliminated the hand may have slipped on the axel, see Seiko Technical Guide. There could
be dirt on the heart/flyback hammer interface or the chronograph centre wheel itself
damaged (needs replacement).
If this does not reset to zero it may have moved on its axel or the flyback pusher is dirty. I
have had a few minute recording wheels that the heart has become detached, this requires a
replacement.
The chronograph centre wheel is the heart of the chronograph complication. It comprises
of a central axel to which one end the sweep hand is attached and at the other the finger
that advances the minute recording wheel. The fourth wheel is mounted on a bush/bearing
and is free to rotate independently of the axel (where on a conventional movement it would
be fixed). A clutch ring and spring connects the two to run the chronograph and this is
worked by the operating levers.
So when the chronograph complication is not running the operating levers are lifting the
clutch and any damage, wear and miss adjustment here causing friction will stop the
movement.
The operating levers are not lifting the clutch evenly due to being out of synch. This
can be adjusted with the eccentric screw fulcrum of the second operating lever. See
Seiko technical manual.
The fourth wheel could be binding on the axel, could be dirty/lack of lubrication
The clutch ring damaged/bent, see photograph below for an exaggerated example
that I think must be caused by miss maintenance. Replacement chronograph centre
wheel required.
The left hand chronograph centre wheel is from a 6139B and the right is a 6139A. You
can understand why it is important to obtain the right calibre revision for the complication
parts as you can see the relative heights of the clutch rings differ.
In this condition the operating levers are not contacting the clutch ring so the only cause to
stall the movement will be related to the following:-
The chronograph centre wheel finger is either out of adjustment or bent (or has been
miss bent) and is contacting the intermediate minute recording wheel at the wrong
angle.
The minute recording wheel jumper is out of adjustment in either tension, or length
causing the intermediate minute recording wheel to park in the wrong position.
Binding of the minute recording wheel or intermediate minute recording wheel axel/
bearings.
The pusher seems floppy and not connected to anything. Open the case up and make sure
the end of the hammer spring is hooked over the flyback lever.
The hammer click holds the force from the pusher to release it at a pre determined force
necessary to whack the hearts and zero the chronograph hands with a positive snap.
A great deal of hammer force is unnecessary and only puts undue wear on the hammer and
chronograph wheels. See the Seiko technical manual for the adjustment procedure. I
always check and adjust the hammer click if necessary by bending the click a little at a
time to achieve a light but positive resetting click.
This effect can be quite marked and is caused by a weak chronograph clutch spring. Over
time the spring looses its tension and the friction between the fourth wheel and clutch ring
is overcome by the beat inertia of the sweep hand/axel/finger.
To preserve the clutch spring the chronograph complication is best left running.
The only cure is a replacement chronograph centre wheel from the correct revision.
When I service a 6139 or swap chronograph centre wheels I check the condition of the
clutch spring by holding the axel and feeling the torque applied to the fourth wheel to
overcome the clutch friction. I have had the opportunity to compare several unserviceable
units with good ones and have developed an empirical feel for them now.
The day disc has slipped on the star. If not too loose it may be simply pushed back into
alignment once removed from the movement. Otherwise the day wheel can be Superglued
to the star, but if you do make sure the glue has 100% cured before letting anywhere near
the movement as the fumes will deposit on the surfaces. I prefer to fit a replacement.
This seems to be a particular foible related to the 6139, although not exclusively.
It has been related by others (and I found out myself) that persevering with wiggling and
fiddling upon insertion of the stem can often yield results and the stem eventually resetting.
There must be a mechanical explanation for this so I decided to look into it. This
phenomenon will only happen when the setting lever and clutch are in the hand setting
position as illustrated below. What happens is when the setting lever axel (release pin) is
pushed in too far the clutch yoke can slip under the setting lever preventing the setting pin
from seating in the stems setting pin groove. This cannot happen in the crown in position
because the setting lever is restrained by the date corrector.
date corrector
yoke under
setting lever
To fix this problem you will need to insert the stem at an angle to push into the end of the
clutch (not enter its hole) this will then drag the yoke from under the setting lever and
allow the setting pin to re-enter the stems setting groove. Note the angle of the stem
rocking the clutch toward the dial side.
So there you have it always remove the stem with the crown in the non-setting position and
if you forget and the setting lever becomes stuck, no need to strip down.
CONCLUSION
Initial impressions of the 6139 calibre are that is appears to be a blend of industrial and
Heath Robinson in general appearance but this belies its underlying functional simplicity.
A tinkerer who has mastered basic movement servicing and possessing aptitude will have
no trouble with the added complications that are tacked onto the base calibre once its
mechanics are understood.