Proof of Existence of God
Proof of Existence of God
of the Supreme Lord. This is confirmed in the       How we can recognize God? Some
By observing energies                              Brahma-saàhitä: yasya prabhä prabhavataù            supernatural power, evidence of authorities,
The Lord is described as the soul, or spirit.      [Bs. 5.40]. The brahmajyoti, or Brahman             scriptural evidence. These things are required.
What is the definition of spirit? Spirit is        effulgence, is due to His bodily luster.            So so far Kåñëa is concerned, every authority
perceivable everywhere. Brahman means              Therefore it is said here, svayaà-jyotiù: He        has accepted Him as God. And when He was
“great.” His greatness is perceived                Himself is light. His light is distributed in       present, His activities were superhuman. And
everywhere. And what is that greatness?            different ways, as the brahmajyoti, as sunlight     from the evidence of Vedic literature, He is
Consciousness. We have personal experience         and as moonlight. Bhagavad-gétä confirms            God. Then, in spite of all these evidences, if
of consciousness, for it is spread all over the    that in the spiritual world there is no need of     you don’t believe Him, then it must be
body; in every hair follicle of our body we        sunlight, moonlight or electricity. The             considered that äsuraà bhävam, that “I shall
can feel consciousness. This is individual         Upaniñads also confirm this; because the            not believe. Whatever evidence you give, and
consciousness.       Similarly,     there     is   bodily luster of the Supreme Personality of         whatever, I mean to say, activities you may
superconsciousness. The example can be             Godhead is sufficient to illuminate the             show, I’ll never believe You God. Finished.”
given of a small light and the sunlight. The       spiritual world, there is no need of sunlight,      Then that is helpless. So avajänanti mäà
sunlight is perceived everywhere, even within      moonlight or any other light or electricity.        müòhä mänuñéà tanum äçritam [Bg. 9.11].
the room or in the sky, but the small light is     This self-illumination also contradicts the         Besides that, one must have the eyes to see
experienced within a specific limit. Similarly,    theory that the spirit soul, or the spiritual       God also. God cannot be seen with our
our consciousness is perceived within the          consciousness, develops at a certain point in       imperfect senses. So the whole bhakti
limit of our particular body, but the              material combination. The term svayaà-jyotiù        process, bhakti-yoga, is the process of
superconsciousness, or the existence of God,       indicates that there is no tinge of anything        purifying the senses to take, to understand
is perceived everywhere. He is present             material or any material reaction. It is            what is God, what is spirit, what is soul. It
everywhere by His energy. It is stated in the      confirmed here that the concept of the Lord’s       requires...    Sarvopädhi-vinirmuktaà         tat-
Viñëu Puräëa that whatever we find,                all-pervasiveness is due to His illumination        paratvena nirmalam [Cc. Madhya 19.170].
anywhere and everywhere, is the distribution       everywhere. We have experience that the sun         Änukülyena kåñëänuçélanaà bhaktir uttamä.
of the energy of the Supreme Lord. In              is situated in one place, but the sunlight is       And in the Närada-païcarätra,
Bhagavad-gétä also it is confirmed that the        diffused all around for millions and millions       sarvopädhi-vinirmuktaà
Lord is all-pervading and exists everywhere        of miles. That is our practical experience.         tat-paratvena nirmalam
by His two kinds of energy, one spiritual and      Similarly, although the supreme light is            håñékeëa håñékeça-
the other material. Both the spiritual and         situated in His personal abode, Vaikuëöha or        sevanaà bhaktir ucyate
material energies are spread everywhere, and       Våndävana, His light is diffused not only in         [Cc. Madhya 19.170]
that is the proof of the existence of the          the spiritual world but beyond that. In the         Simply, this bhakti-yoga is the process of
Supreme Personality of Godhead.                    material world also, that light is reflected by     purifying, purifying. As soon as you purify
The existence of consciousness everywhere is       the sun globe, and the sunlight is reflected by     your power of seeing, power of hearing,
not temporary. It is without beginning, and        the moon globe. Thus although He is situated        power of tasting, power of touching, all
because it is without beginning, it is also        in His own abode, His light is distributed all      these... We have got our senses to taste, to
without end. The theory that consciousness         over the spiritual and material worlds. The         acquire knowledge. But if the senses are
develops at a certain stage of material            Brahma-saàhitä (5.37) confirms this. Goloka         blunt, then we cannot understand what is
combination is not accepted herein, for the        eva nivasaty akhilätma-bhütaù: He is living in      God. But therefore you require regulative
consciousness which exists everywhere is           Goloka, but still He is present all over the        principles to understand what is God. That
said to be without beginning. The                  creation. He is the Supersoul of everything,        regulative principle must be undertaken. And
materialistic or atheistic theory stating that     the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and He          the easiest regulative principle is this chanting
there is no soul, that there is no God and that    has innumerable transcendental qualities. It is     of Hare Kåñëa. If you regularly chant with
consciousness is the result of a combination       also concluded that although He is                  devotion, without any offense, then this very
of matter is not acceptable. Matter is not         undoubtedly a person, He is not a puruña of         simple process will help you to purify your
beginningless; it has a beginning. As this         this material world. Mäyävädé philosophers          senses and you will appreciate presence of
material body has a beginning, the universal       cannot understand that beyond this material         God, and God consciousness, Kåñëa
body does also. And as our material body has       world there can be a person; therefore they         consciousness will develop in you.
begun on the basis of our soul, the entire         are impersonalists. But it is explained very
gigantic universal body has begun on the           nicely here that the Personality of Godhead is      Believe it or Not – GOD Exists
basis of the Supreme Soul. The Vedänta-sütra       beyond material existence.                          Çyämasundara: But he has a philosophy of
says, janmädy asya [SB 1.1.1]. This entire         SB 3.26.4                                           religion. And he says that the believer in God
material exhibition—its creation, its growth,                                                          has a greater chance than the doubter to
its maintenance and its dissolution—is an          By Immediate experience                             discover truth and to gain...
emanation from the Supreme Person. In              Disciple: Jung goes on to point out the             Prabhupäda: That... Vinaçyati. Those who are
Bhagavad-gétä also, the Lord says, “I am the       difference     between     theologians    and       doubtful, they vinaçyati; they are finished.
beginning, the source of birth of everything.”     philosophers. He writes, “At least they [the        Çyämasundara: Yes. He says that at least the
The Supreme Personality of Godhead is              theologians] are sure that God exists, even         believer has a greater chance to gain practical
described here. He is not a temporary person,      though they make contradictory statements           advantages by his belief, whereas the doubter
nor does He have a beginning. He is without a      about Him.… God’s existence does not                doesn’t stand any chance to gain...
cause, and He is the cause of all causes. paraù    depend on our proofs.… I understand that            Prabhupäda: That is good. That is good. Then
means “transcendental,” “beyond the creative       God was, for me at least, one of the most           whether he is a believer or a doubter?
energy.” The Lord is the creator of the            certain and immediate of experiences.”              Çyämasundara: He is a believer, but the
creative energy. We can see that there is a        Çréla Prabhupäda: Yes, that is a                    extent of his belief we’ll discuss in a few
creative energy in the material world, but He      transcendental conviction. One may not know         moments. He says that the one who
is not under this energy. He is prakåti-paraù,     God, but it is very easy to understand that         disbelieves faces the added risk of losing any
beyond this energy. He is not subjected to the     God is there. One has to learn about God’s          chance of discovering the truth.
threefold miseries created by the material         nature, but there is no doubt about the fact        Prabhupäda: Yes.
energy because He is beyond it. The modes of       that God is there. Any sane man can                 Çyämasundara: So it is better to believe, even
material nature do not touch Him. It is            understand that he is being controlled. So          though one doesn’t know for sure. It is better
explained here, svayaà-jyotiù: He is light         who is that controller? The supreme                 to believe because it gives one more chance
Himself. We have experience in the material        controller is God. This is the conclusion of a      of discovering the truth. He says that we have
world of one light’s being a reflection of         sane man. Jung is right when he says that           the right to believe in God, even in the
another, just as moonlight is a reflection of      God’s existence does not depend on our              absence of absolute proof. Even though there
the sunlight. Sunlight is also the reflection of   proof.                                              is no absolute proof, he says, of the existence
the brahmajyoti. Similarly, brahmajyoti, the                                                           of God, still we have the right to believe in
God because this helps us to get closer to the      poor fund of knowledge. Everything...               changing; the seas is in its position. Just like
truth. It gives us a better chance.                 Suppose this is a country, Indonesia, nicely        the Pacific Ocean at any moment it can
Prabhupäda: That means he accepts God is            being managed; the roads are there; the             overflow at any place. But it does not do so.
truth and that He’s existing. Does he say like      policemen there, they’re directing... Just          You walk... I was walking in Los Angeles just
that or not?                                        yesterday we were trying to enter in a one          about three feet away from the sea. So I was
Çyämasundara: Yes. He says there is no              way, policeman directs. So this symptom says        explaining to my students, “Now, I am just
absolute proof, but...                              that there is a good government. So any sane        three feet away from the sea and the sea is so
Prabhupäda: But that is proof.                      man, he’ll see the cosmic manifestation—that        vast. At any second it can overflood us. But
Çyämasundara: ...by my belief I get more...         the sun is rising exactly in time; the moon is      why you are confident the sea will not come
Prabhupäda: That he is saying, that if              rising exactly in time; the seasons are             here?” Because we know, by God’s order,
somebody believes, he has got greater chance.       changing; the seas is in its position. Just like    although the sea, the ocean, is so big, it
Unless the fact is there, simply by believing,      the Pacific Ocean at any moment it can              cannot violate the order of God. That you are
how there is chance?                                overflow at any place. But it does not do so.       big, that’s all right. But you cannot come
Çyämasundara: He says that by this belief I         You walk... I was walking in Los Angeles just       beyond this line. So these things are being
get some strength, some happiness, some             about three feet away from the sea. So I was        managed. And there is no God? What a
practical advantage; therefore I have the right     explaining to my students, “Now, I am just          nonsense. If things are... Just like when you
to believe, because I get a practical benefit.      three feet away from the sea and the sea is so      pass through a house, sometimes if you don’t
Prabhupäda: So practical benefit... Suppose         vast. At any second it can overflood us. But        see—the house is not properly taken care of,
you are getting some warmth, so you believe         why you are confident the sea will not come         or there is no light in front of the house, there
there must be some fire. So I believe. Unless       here?” Because we know, by God’s order,             are so many garbages, we immediately say,
there is fire, how there is warmth?                 although the sea, the ocean, is so big, it          “Oh, there is no man in this house.” And as
Çyämasundara: Yes. So the belief itself is the      cannot violate the order of God. That you are       soon as you see house is very nicely kept,
proof.                                              big, that’s all right. But you cannot come          there is light and the garden is kept, we
Prabhupäda: Yes.                                    beyond this line. So these things are being         understand there is a man. So this is common
Devänanda: Çréla Prabhupäda, one thing              managed. And there is no God? What a                sense. If things are going on, everything is
about James as distinct from many other             nonsense. If things are... Just like when you       going on so nicely, how you can say there is
philosophers is that he felt the personal           pass through a house, sometimes if you don’t        no management, there is no brain? How you
experience of God.                                  see—the house is not properly taken care of,        can say? What is this nonsense? How you can
Prabhupäda: Everyone has got personal               or there is no light in front of the house, there   say there is no God? Asatyam apratiñöhaà te
experience of God.                                  are so many garbages, we immediately say,           jagad ähur anéçvaram [Bg. 16.8]. These are
Devänanda: But he recognized it as such.            “Oh, there is no man in this house.” And as         the rascal, atheist proposition, asatyam. There
Prabhupäda:        Somebody        He    reveals;   soon as you see house is very nicely kept,          is no proof in it. Zero. From zero it has come.
sometimes he does not believe—He hides.             there is light and the garden is kept, we           Just see nonsense. Does anything come out of
Everyone has got. Everyone. A human being,          understand there is a man. So this is common        zero? You assemble zero, many millions of
every human being has got.                          sense. If things are going on, everything is        zero in one place, but still it is zero. Do you
Devänanda:        That’s     true.   The    only    going on so nicely, how you can say there is        think that if you make zero, zero, zero, zero,
experience...                                       no management, there is no brain? How you           zero, million times, has it any value? How do
Prabhupäda: No, no. The atheists, simply            can say? What is this nonsense? How you can         they conclude from zero such a management,
artificially they cover. Naturally he has belief.   say there is no God? Asatyam apratiñöhaà te         cosmic manifestation has come? The flower
Naturally he has belief. Even in this primitive     jagad ähur anéçvaram [Bg. 16.8]. These are          is coming out nicely in its own way. The tree
stage, as soon as there is something                the rascal, atheist proposition, asatyam. There     is coming. Human being is coming.
wonderful, natural phenomenon, they offer           is no proof in it. Zero. From zero it has come.     Everything is in order. And there is no
respects, the primitive man. The man in the         Just see nonsense. Does anything come out of        management. How much rascaldom. Just see.
jungle, as soon as he sees a big ocean, he          zero? You assemble zero, many millions of           So these atheist class, they’re rascals,
offers his respects. As soon as he sees a big       zero in one place, but still it is zero. Do you     müòhäù, third-class men without any
mountain, he offers his respects. As soon as        think that if you make zero, zero, zero, zero,      knowledge. Na mäà duñkåtinaù. I’ve already
there is a thunderbolt... This is called            zero, million times, has it any value? How do       explained. Using the merit for sinful
realization of the çakti. Parasya brahmaëaù         they conclude from zero such a management,          activities, they’re called duñkåtiù. And
çakti. So this is çakta stage, realization of       cosmic manifestation has come? The flower           müòhäù, these rascals, who cannot understand
God by seeing something wonderful. That is          is coming out nicely in its own way. The tree       how the management is going on, müòhäù.
çakta stage. Then after this state, çakta,          is coming. Human being is coming.
sauréyam. Çakta stage, worshiping the energy        Everything is in order. And there is no             Destroying CHANCE Theory
of God—everything is energy; then                   management. How much rascaldom. Just see.           Puñöa Kåñëa: This philosophy pervades all of
çaktyopäsanam, then çaktasauréyam, then             So these atheist class, they’re rascals,            modern science.
suryopäsanam, worshiping the sun, because it        müòhäù, third-class men without any                 Prabhupäda: Hm?
is the reservoir of all energies according to       knowledge. Na mäà duñkåtinaù. I’ve already          Puñöa Kåñëa: This chance theory.
the material world. Çakta, sauréya then             explained. Using the merit for sinful               Prabhupäda: Yes.
gäëapatya. The gäëapatya means that is              activities, they’re called duñkåtiù. And            Puñöa Kåñëa: They say that “By chance, after
humanitarian. That energy is distributed—           müòhäù, these rascals, who cannot understand        some time...”
pantheism, humanitarian. Çakta, sauriyam,           how the management is going on, müòhäù.             Prabhupäda: Because they have finished their
gäëapatya, then çaiva, you go on. Then                                                                  science. They have researched and done so
Vaiñëava. Impersonal then personalist.                                                                  many years now, their scientific knowledge is
Çyämasundara: There is also the demigods in         Where does GOD come from?                           liquidated. Now they are giving this chance
charge of those different departments?              Rascal means denying the existence of God.          theory, therefore, because they cannot explain
Different demigods...                               He’s a rascal. Anyone who denies the                anything. That’s all. Their vidyä buddhi is
Prabhupäda: That is gäëapatya. Gaëapati, the        existence of God, he’s a rascal. Rascal means       finished. That is the problem now. For the
worshiper of Gaëeça. Gäëapatya.                     poor fund of knowledge. Everything...               scientists, it is a problem now. Now, so far
Çyämasundara: Çakti.                                Suppose this is a country, Indonesia, nicely        their limited knowledge is concerned, they
Prabhupäda: Çakti, Sürya, Gaëapati, Çiva,           being managed; the roads are there; the             have done everything, discovered everything.
and then Viñëu—païcopäsanam. This is                policemen there, they’re directing... Just          Now there is no scope of working and
called païcopäsanam.                                yesterday we were trying to enter in a one          discovering. That is the position of the
                                                    way, policeman directs. So this symptom says        scientists.
Good Management means Manager                       that there is a good government. So any sane        Païca-draviòa: So they should come to you.
Rascal means denying the existence of God.          man, he’ll see the cosmic manifestation—that        Prabhupäda: Well, that is another thing. Rut
He’s a rascal. Anyone who denies the                the sun is rising exactly in time; the moon is      this is their actual position. Now their
existence of God, he’s a rascal. Rascal means       rising exactly in time; the seasons are             position is how to bluff and get money,
because talk is finished. Now bluffing stock is     cut, separated?” So one friend said, “It is by       you feel some heat, you can immediately
now finished. Now they have to give theories        knife.” And the other friend said, “No, it was       understand there is some fire. And if there is
like this “chance” and make big, big words,         by scissor.” So they went on.... One said,           light, you can immediately understand there is
jugglery.                                           “No! It is knife.” He said, “No! It is scissor.”     fire. The light you can see, and heat we can
Tamäla Kåñëa: Why don’t they make                   So the knife man was very strong. So he took         feel. By feeling or seeing, we can understand
research into consciousness?                        him to the water, that “You say it is knife.         the existence of God everywhere. This is
Prabhupäda: What they’ll be finished?               Otherwise I shall drown you.” (laughter) So          intelligence, not that... They challenge
Whatever their limited knowledge they               he said, “I’ll never say.” Then he said....          foolishly, “I can... Can you show me God? I
possess, that is finished now. They have no         When he was drowning, he was doing like              cannot see God, therefore...” No. Why you
scope.                                              this, (Prabhupäda gesticulates) (laughter)           cannot see God? You can feel the presence of
Tamäla Kåñëa: They should look to the field         “Scissor, scissor.” When he was actually             God by heat and light. Light. Light you can
of consciousness.                                   drowned and he had no other means to say,            see. When there is sunshine, you can see both
Dharmädhyakña: They are doing it now, but           then he was doing like this: “It is scissor. It is   the light and the heat. So as it is confirmed in
they are studying the brain. They think the         scissor.” This is their argument. However            the Vedic literature, we should appreciate the
brain is the source of consciousness. So they       punished they may be, they’ll do this.               presence of God everywhere by His different
study people...                                     (laughter)                                           energies, exactly like heat and light.
Prabhupäda: So wherefrom the brain came?            Madhudviña: [break] ...that you are too              So this energy of Kåñëa... He has got multi-
What they’ll answer?                                impatient.                                           energies.
Dharmädhyakña: Well, it has evolved.                Prabhupäda: Eh?                                      na tasya käryaà karaëaà ca vidyate
Prabhupäda: Again by chance. “Brain became          Madhudviña: They will say that you are too           na tat-samaç cäbhyadhikaç ca dåçyate
by chance.” That means failure of their stock.      impatient. We see that in all science there’s        paräsya çaktir vividhaiva çrüyate
Dharmädhyakña: I heard one professor in             been a natural progression. Now they have....        sväbhäviki jïäna-bala-kriyä ca
Berkeley...                                         In the test tube they have made some tissues,        This is Vedic injunction. Na tasya käryaà
Prabhupäda: You, you prepare brain, or keep         and the tissues are sustaining themselves and        karaëaà ca vidyate. Kåñëa... Here He is
something that by chance there will be a            are living. So in due course, they’ll be able to     playing on His flute, but His energies are
brain.                                              create some functioning brain.                       working. Just like a big man, a big business
Tamäla Kåñëa: Make a monkey’s brain by              Prabhupäda: Then what is the use of your             magnate: he is sitting in his room, but his
chance.                                             creation? It is already created. Why you are,        energy is working—big, big factory is going
Yaçodänandana: In the Çrémad-Bhägavatam,            rascal, working? Why?                                on; large amount of profit is coming
in one of your purports, you mention that           Madhudviña: We can create a better brain.            automatically. So if it is possible for ordinary
great scientists like Einstein, Newton and          Prabhupäda: No.                                      human being that he is sitting in one place,
Chandra Bose had such great brains, but who         Madhudviña: By our scientific endeavor.              and still, things are going on by management
has created their brain?                            Prabhupäda: You cannot do even a lesser.             of his energy, so why not Kåñëa, the Supreme
Prabhupäda: Yes.                                    How you can expect to do...?                         Lord? He is sitting in one place. Goloka eva
Yaçodänandana: This is a very clever                Trivikrama: Post-dated check again.                  nivasaty akhilätma-bhütaù [Bs. 5.37].
argument of Your Divine Grace.                      Prabhupäda: Again the same.                          Änanda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhävitäbhis täbhir
Prabhupäda: Yes. Yes.                                                                                    ya eva nija-rüpatayä kaläbhiù, goloka eva
Yaçodänandana: That they will not research.         Dharmädhyakña: Çréla Prabhupäda, we saw a            nivasaty akhilätma-bhütaù. He is situated in
Prabhupäda: We are appreciating the brain of        science film in Stanford, and one process of         His planet, Goloka Våndävana; still His
big, big scientist. But who has created that        protein synthesis they called “The Magic             energies are going on. The material energy is
brain? No appreciation. Just see how fool           Factor.”                                             working, this material world. Kåñëa says,
they are. You cannot create that brain. You         Prabhupäda: Again, that cau...                       mayädhyakñeëa prakåtiù süyate sa-caräcaram
create another contemporary brain like that         Dharmädhyakña: They didn’t...                        [Bg. 9.10]. Under His vigilance all the laws of
big, big man. Even that big man cannot. The         Prabhupäda: Chance. Magic is also a chance.          material nature is going on. Exactly in time
big men, before dying, he should have               Dharmädhyakña: So that must have been the            the sun is rising, the moon is rising.
considered, “Now I’ll die now. Let me create        Kåñëa factor.                                        Everything is going on minutely, very nicely.
another brain like me, and that will work.”         Guru-kåpä: Everything else but Kåñëa.                Paräsya çaktiù. Sväbhäviké jïäna-bala-kriyä
That they cannot do.                                Magic.                                               ca. It is going so nicely that Kåñëa hasn’t got
Païca-draviòa: So they think chance.                Prabhupäda: [break] You see the tree, coconut        to learn how to do it. The machine is so
Prabhupäda: So there must be third man, third       tree, the hard nut and the water. Now,               perfect, it is going on perfectly. The flower is
brain who has created. You cannot do it.            according to scientific idea, there must be          coming by His energy. Puëyo gandhaù
Yaçodänandana: There is actual proof,               pipe, there must be pumping and there must           påthivyäà ca. The special seed you sow on the
Prabhupäda, that when these scientists and          be water. Then you can raise the water. But          ground and a particular type of plant will
great, so-called poets, when they die, refusing     where is such, such things? How the water is         come out, then rose will come out, a
to admit the authority of God, they die a very      coming?                                              particular flavor will come out. Sväbhäviké
terrible death. Just like in France there used to   Païca-draviòa: To the tree?                          jïäna-bala-kriyä ca. We do not see how
be a great philosopher named Voltaire, and at       Prabhupäda: Yes, on the top, so high. There is       Kåñëa’s energies are working, but it is
the end of his life, because his whole writings     no pipe. There is no pump, nothing. You do           working. Don’t think that “It is
and existence he tried to disprove the              it. Instead of calling a plumber, you do             automatically... There was a chunk and there
existence of God, he went insane, and he was        something that the water will come in this           was...” No. Not like that. Everything. But His
eating his own stool and urine. And a priest        tank.                                                energy is so perfect. Just like if you want to
came to him and said, “Why don’t you accept         Devotee (2): Well, they will say that the roots      paint one nice flower, you have to arrange so
the existence of God? You have become such          of the tree is bringing the water up.                many things—color, and the brush, and the
great poet.” He said, “I will never accept the      Prabhupäda: That is a nonsense. You make             painting cloth—and you have to apply your
existence of God.” But he became to the point       such root and bring water here. Then your            energies and... But still, it will not come so
where he was eating his own stool and urine.        scientific knowledge will be proved. But you         perfect. But Kåñëa’s energies are so perfect
Prabhupäda: Just see.                               cannot do it. Can you do it? We are spending         that we see automatically, but there is
Yaçodänandana: This has been recorded...            so much money for bringing water. Bring that         supervision of Kåñëa. There is no question of
Prabhupäda: This is the punishment, yes.            root and bring water.                                accident.      Everything      is    supervised.
Punishment there is always. But they are so                                                              Sväbhäviké jïäna-bala-kriyä ca. We have to
stubborn fools still.                               Kåñëa’s Wonderful Creations                          do it with our hand, to paint a picture of a
Dharmädhyakña: Prabhupäda, the one great            Whatever we see, that is manifestation of the        nice rose flower, but in the nature the flower
brain researcher, he spent nineteen years           Supreme Lord’s different energies. The               is coming out. We see automatically. No. The
searching for the memory in the brain.              example is the fire and the heat and light.          Kåñëa’s energy is working, there but it is
Prabhupäda: There is a story that two friends       That’s all. So heat is the material energy, and      going on so swiftly, so, I mean to say,
talking that, on the point that “How this was       light is the spiritual energy. Just like when        accurately, that he hasn’t got to exact His
energy, but it is working automatically.           Indian man: Sir, my question still remains          again. This is the case with all material
Sväbhäviké jïäna-bala-kriyä ca. Whatever           unanswered. I said when human being                 objects. The materialist’s suggestion that
knowledge is required... If you have studied,      surrenders completely, as I said, manasä väcä       beyond the material sky there is “some other
you will find in the petals of the flower the      karmaëä...                                          form” which is beyond the boundary of
color, exactly symmetrical, everything.            Prabhupäda: Yes.                                    visibility and which is strange and
Whatever color is required, it is coming out.      Indian man: Now the initiative is completely        inconceivable is but a faint indication of the
We say “automatically.” No automatically.          taken away from the human being.                    spiritual sky. However, the basic principle of
Sväbhäviké jïäna-bala-kriyä. The knowledge         Prabhupäda: Yes.                                    spirit is much closer—for it functions within
and the action of Kåñëa is so perfect, it is       Indian man: How is a human being going to           all living beings. When that spiritual principle
coming out.                                        continue in this world if it has to exist, and if   is out of the material body, then the material
                                                   the initiative is not left to the human being, as   body has no life. Within the body of a child,
One who cannot understand immediately the          you say that God is there and God has to be         for instance, the spiritual principle is present,
Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kåñëa, he          accepted? But my father, his father, his great-     and therefore changes take place in the body
can try to understand Him by His different         godfather, everyone say that God exists. I’ll       and it develops. But if the spirit leaves the
potencies. Just like He says that “I am the        be also telling my son, and his son, and his        body, the development stops. This law is
taste of the water.” Raso ’ham apsu kaunteya:      son. This is, this is passing on the very           applicable to every material object. Matter
taste of water, or the sweetness of water. So      existence of God from mouth to mouth. And           transforms from one shape to another when it
there is sufficient supply of water in the         now, because there is a word like “God,” do         is in contact with spirit. Without spirit there is
oceans and the seas. Then why we are in            we blindly surrender to Him, an identity            no transformation. The entire universe
scarcity of water? Because that taste of the       which human being has not seen...                   develops in that way. It emanates from the
water should be changed by the grace of            Prabhupäda: No, no.                                 energy of the Transcendence because of the
Kåñëa. Otherwise you cannot use it. That is        Indian man: No one in the world has seen that       spiritual force which is His, and it develops
Kåñëa consciousness. You can also change,          there is God? And...                                into gigantic forms like the sun, moon, earth,
by distilling the sea water, or ocean water, but   Prabhupäda: You cannot say that no one has          etc. There are fourteen divisions of planetary
it will not be as tasteful as it is done by God.   seen. You have not seen.                            systems, and although they are all different in
Or you can say nature. The same water, taken       Indian man: I have not seen.                        dimension and quality, the same principle of
from the ocean, transferred, transformed into      Prabhupäda: Yes, that’s all. (laughter)             development holds true for all. The spiritual
cloud, the cloud is distributed, and water,        Indian man: Yes, but there may be...                force is the creator, and by this spiritual
rain, falls. You get nice distilled water,         Prabhupäda: You cannot say others.                  principle only, transformation, transition and
tasteful water. So if you are going to             Indian man: ...that I take your word, and I...      development take place.
challenge there is no existence of God, then       Prabhupäda: No, no. First of all, you should        Life is definitely not generated simply by a
you can do it. Why don’t you do it? Why you        withdraw. You have not seen. But you cannot         material reaction like a chemical combination,
are so much in scarcity of water? I do not         say others have not seen.                           as many foolish men claim. Material
think any scientist can very boldly answer         Indian man: I have not seen. That’s why I...        interaction is set in motion by a superior
that “Yes, we can do and we can defy the           Prabhupäda: That’s all right. So you have to        being who creates a favorable circumstance to
existence of God, or the mercy of God.” That       learn how to see. Then you have to learn how        accommodate the spiritual living force. The
is not possible. Raso ’ham apsu kaunteya           to see. You cannot see; you remain ignorant,        superior energy handles matter in an
prabhäsmi çaçi-süryayoù. Kåñëa says that “I        fool, and you want to see God. You have to          appropriate way—as determined by the free
am the shining of the sun and the moon.”           learn how to see God.                               will of the spiritual being. For example,
Now, there..., there are so many great                                                                 building materials do not automatically
scientists,    and     expert      in   chemical   Reasonable Logic of Sun & Creator                   “react” and suddenly assume the shape of a
composition, making chemical composition.          The heat and luminosity of the sun’s rays           residential house. The living spiritual being
Why not make a small sun on the head of the        demonstrate to the satisfaction of any rational     handles matter appropriately by his free will
[break] city so that you save so much              man that the sun, the source of the rays, is        and thus constructs his house. Similarly,
expenditure of electric light? They’ll say,        certainly not a dark, cold globe but rather a       matter is the ingredient only, but the spirit is
“Oh, the composition of the sun is like this,      reservoir of almost unlimited heat and light.       the creator. Only a man with a poor fund of
that.” So many theories. But why not prepare       Similarly, the innumerable instances of             knowledge avoids this conclusion. The
also? If you know the composition, make it a       personality and personal consciousness within       creator may remain unseen in the background,
sample sun and see that it is shining.             creation are more than adequate to                  but that does not mean that there is no creator.
                                                   demonstrate the existence, somewhere, of an         One should not be illusioned simply by the
Learning to see GOD                                unlimited reservoir of consciousness and            gigantic form of the material universe.
Prabhupäda: Yes. Because without we..., our        personal behavior. In his dialogue Philebus,        Rather, one should learn to discern the
present position is to defy the existence of       the Greek philosopher Plato argued that just        existence of supreme intelligence behind all
God. This is our present position in material      as the material elements in our body are            these material manifestations. The Supreme
life. “There is no God. God is dead. I am          derived from a vast reservoir of material           Being, who is the supreme intelligence, is the
God. You are God.” This is defying the             elements existing within the universe, our          ultimate creator, the all-attractive Personality
authority of God. Therefore to understand          rational intelligence is also derived from a        of Godhead, Çré Kåñëa. Although one may
God, you have to surrender; otherwise it is        great cosmic intelligence existing within the       not be aware of this, there is definite
not possible. You cannot defy and at the same      universe, and this supreme intelligence is          information of the creator given in Vedic
time understand God. That is not possible.         God, the creator. Unfortunately, in Kali-yuga       literatures such as the Bhagavad-gétä and
Nähaà     prakäçaù sarvasya          yogamäyä-     many leading thinkers cannot understand this        especially the Çrémad-Bhägavatam.
samävåtaù [Bg. 7.25]. You cannot understand        and instead deny that the Absolute Truth, the       When a satellite is thrown into outer space, a
God by challenging. Why God? Suppose we,           source of our personal consciousness, has           child may not understand that there are
we go to the president of our country. If I        consciousness and personality. This is as           scientific brains behind it, but an intelligent
challenge, “Mr. President, what is your value?     reasonable as saying that the sun is cold and       adult realizes that scientific brains on earth
Can you tell me what you are?” you cannot          dark.                                               are controlling the satellite. Similarly, less
know him. No. You have to surrender. You           >>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 12.3.43                     intelligent persons do not have information of
have to become friendly and serve him,                                                                 the creator and His eternal abode in the
please him. Then he’ll understand.                 Spirit in essence gives life to matter              spiritual world, which is far beyond our range
Sevonmukhe hi jivhädau svayam eva                  Therefore all material shapes are subject to        of visibility, but in actuality there is a spiritual
sphuraty adhaù. You cannot challenge. Just         the law of change, although potentially the         sky, and spiritual planets which are more
like the sun is not visible at night. If you       material energy is conserved. Potentially,          spacious and greater in number than planets
challenge, “O sun, can you show me where           everything is eternal, but in the material          in the material sky. From the Bhagavad-gétä
you are?” No. You have to wait for his mercy.      world matter takes shape, remains for some          we receive information that the material
In the morning, you’ll see. This is the process.   time, develops into maturity, grows old,            universe only constitutes a fraction (one
                                                   begins to dwindle and at last disappears            fourth) of the creation. Such information is
extensively available in the Çrémad-                number of wives. Otherwise, there is no              if the world is false, then why you are coming
Bhägavatam and in other Vedic literatures.          meaning of omnipotent. So similarly, God has         to open school and hospitals? Because they
>>> Ref. VedaBase => EJ 1: Antimaterial             become many, and He has got a plan behind            could not get... And some other sannyäsé
Worlds                                              this thinking of many. Now, out of these             also, he is now taking part in politics. If jagat
                                                    manies, if one wants to merge again into the         is mithyä, why you are taking part in politics?
Purpose of Creation                                 existence of God, so God has no objection.           These question are there.
God is the father or creator or whatever, or
the source of all life, or source of our            >>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gétä 2.12 --           >>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gétä 16.6 --
existence. Whatever you like, you can say. So       New York, March 9, 1966                              South Africa, October 18, 1975
we have, we have been created in that way.
Eko bahu syäma. God has become many. This           Buddha’s Creation Theory & View of                   On One God with different names
is also version of the Vedas that many, all         Impersonalists on existence of this creation         Acyutänanda: Question: I believe in Kåñëa
these many, we are also god. Just like the fire     So it is a false... When the Mäyävädé                but please clarify the following doubts. Lord
diffuses its sparks. The sparks coming out of       sannyäsés say that jagan mithyä, Jagad ähur          Kåñëa is the Supreme Personality of
the fire, it is the..., they are also part and      anéçvaram [Bg. 16.8], “There is no God...”           Godhead, so when Kåñëa is the only God in
parcel of the fire. Similarly we, we are all        The Bauddha philosophers, they say that              the world, the creator of the whole universe,
parts and parcels of the Supreme. Now, He           “This jagat, this world, has come into               then why the existence of Jesus Christ and
wanted to become many. He wanted to                 existence by combination of matter.” The             Allah? Why should not only one God for all?
become many, so He has become many, and             modern scientists also say. They say that            Why Christians and Muslims are not
we are that many. So we are not different           “Chemical evolution, by combination of               accepting Kåñëa as God?
from God. We are not different from God, but        chemicals, everything has come out, but there        Prabhupäda: They are accepting God, but
because He wanted to become many, so we             is no creator.” They will deny this. This is the     they did not disclose the name of God
have become many. Now, thing is, when God           symptom of the asura. So from this                   because the people are unable to understand.
wanted to become many, there must be some           instruction you can understand who is a rascal       “Kåñëa” means “the all-attractive.” That is
purpose behind this. Otherwise, why did He          and asura. As soon as they say that “There is        the meaning of Kåñëa. So unless God is all-
like to become many? He was one, one                no God. The world is created by chance. By           attractive, how He can be God? “Kåñëa”
without second. That’s all right. But why did       chance...” Aparaspara-bhütam. Aparaspara:            means all-attractive.
He become many?                                     “One thing mixed with another thing...”              ahaà sarvasya prabhavo
So that is a question, one must like to put, that   How the example? The example is kim anyat            mattaù sarvaà pravartate
“Why God became many?” So that is, that             käma-haitukam. Just like a man and woman,            iti matvä bhajante mäà
answer is that because God is sac-cid-änanda-       by chance they become lusty and have sex,            budhä bhäva-samanvitäù
vigraha [Bs. 5.1]—He’s all-pleasure—                and the woman becomes pregnant, and the               [Bg. 10.8]
therefore, without many, there is no pleasure.      child is coming, just like this is a creation,       When one understands Kåñëa... To
Just like here I sit down the whole day alone,      accidentally, accident. The man or woman             understand Kåñëa it takes little time.
but I become more active and more pleasing          becomes lusty accidentally, and there is sex         Manuñyäëäà         sahasreñu      kaçcid    yatati
when you come. Whenever we want to enjoy            and therefore the creation of the child. This is     siddhaye, yatatäm api siddhänäm [Bg. 7.3].
some pleasure, pleasure is not enjoyed alone.       their theory, not that “This child is a living       So Kåñëa revealed Himself in India before
Pleasure is enjoyed with many. Now God is           entity, and he is coming from his last birth,        Arjuna, and what the others will understand
by nature... He’s änandamayo ’bhyäsät. He’s         and he’s taking particular type of body              about Kåñëa unless he’s advanced like
always full of pleasure, full of blissfulness.      according to his last birth,” no conclusion like     Arjuna? So there are different persons, so
Now, if He wants to become many, it is...           that. “God is the judge what kind of body he         different types of religion they have revealed.
He’s omnipotent. He can become many.                should get.” Daiva-netreëa.                          That is also Kåñëa—but, to some extent. The
Where is the objection there? He can... He          Karmaëä daiva-netreëa. There are so many             full extent they cannot understand. Just like
can manifest Himself in various... Just now         things behind this child’s birth. Why this           Lord Jesus Christ says “Thou shall not kill.”
we have quoted a verse from Brahma-saàhitä,         child is coming to a poor father or rich father      Just imagine what the audience were. They
advaitam acyutam anädim ananta-rüpam [Bs            if it is accident? Why one child is suffering,       are killers. So what they’ll understand about
5.33]. Ananta-rüpam means unlimited forms.          one is not, is very comfortable position? So         Kåñëa? Let them first stop this killing. Then
Unlimited forms. Ad... Still, they are one. In      there is behind so many things, but they do          the stage will come he’ll understand what is
spite of becoming unlimited, they’re one. Just      not know. Because they are asura, they think,        Kåñëa.
like the sun. If you put here millions of pots,     “It is accident” or “there is no life. Kill it. If   yeñäà tv anta-gataà päpaà
waterpots, in every pot you’ll find the sun’s       you feel botheration then kill it. Finish this       janänäà puëya-karmaëäm
reflection. But that millions of reflections,       business.” These are the asuric conclusion.          te dvandva-moha-nirmuktä
sun, does not mean that sun has lost his            Jagad ähur... asatyam apratiñöham. This is           bhajante mäà dåòha-vratäù
oneness. Sun is one. That is also a Vedic           false. They say that jagan mithyä, “So we             [Bg. 7.28]
system, that we are all reflection like that. So    have nothing to do.” Brahma satyam and...            One who is sinful, the first instruction should
anyway, these many, many forms of God, is           Brahman is satya, that’s fact, but we say, we        be, “You stop your sinful activities.” Then the
from the desire of God. Now, out of these...        Vaiñëavas say, that “The jagat is created by         opportunity will come to understand Kåñëa.
Because God has got some desire,                    Brahman. How it is false? How the satya can          That is stated in the... Yeñäà tu anta-gataà
transcendental desire, to enjoy with many. He       create asatya?” This logic they cannot               päpam. One who is sinful, what he will
enjoys with His own energy because He is            understand. If the man who has created, who          understand about Kåñëa? First of all, stop
all-perfect. Just like if I want to enjoy life, I   has cooked so many nice things, so if he is a        sinful activities. Then this stage will come,
want family, I want a wife, I want children, I      fact, then the cooking is also a fact. How you       he’ll understand Kåñëa. Therefore Jesus
want friends, I want servants. So I have to         can say the cooking is false? That is not            Christ said, “You nonsense, stop killing.”
think before having a wife. You see? Because        knowledge.                                           Then there will be time we’ll understand one
I am limited, so I think twice, whether I am        Therefore sometimes we find that although            day Kåñëa. So the first instruction is to stop
able to keep a wife, then whether I am able to      they say it is mithyä, jagan mithyä, and take        sinful activities; then he’ll be qualified.
maintain my children. These things are              sannyäsa and for some days they remain               yeñäà tv anta-gataà päpaà
consideration. And actually, in the present         meditation or aloof from any worldly affairs,        janänäà puëya-karmaëäm
society every young man is thinking like that.      but later on, when they do not find Brahman,         te dvandva-moha-nirmuktä
You see? Whenever the question of marrying          they come again to this mäyä to open                 bhajante mäà dåòha-vratäù
is there, they think like that. But that thinking   hospitals, schools, as sannyäsé. Just like in         [Bg. 7.28]
is due to our imperfectness. Because we are         our country there are many. The beginning            So everything by step by step, not by jump.
not all-powerful, therefore we think like that.     we see that... Vivekananda Swami, he took            That is not possible.
But when we give the qualification to God           sannyäsa and meditation. Later on, after his
that He is all-powerful, omnipotent, so He can      touring in the Western countries, he came to         >>> Ref. VedaBase => Çrémad-Bhägavatam
maintain any number of children or any              India to open hospitals, schools, like that. But     5.5.2 -- Hyderabad, April 12, 1975
                                                      Just like what you can do, I cannot do. Your        do it!” But now many of us are sensing that
Creation implies a creator                            workmanship may not be equal with my                the experiment has failed. People are feeling
“Because God is distributed all over                  workmanship. Your brain work may not be             that they’ve lost their moral bearings amidst a
everywhere, therefore there is no separate            equal to my brain work. There are                   chaotic sea of hedonism. Duty is once again
existence of God.” But we do not say that.            differences. Each and every living entity, they     in favor.
We say that, the example, that because the            are different from each other so far individual     But duty to whom, and for what? We can
sun is distributing his heat and energy,              capacities are concerned. So in spite of            answer these questions only by understanding
therefore you cannot say that there is no             many... That is God’s creation. In spite of         the other part of dharma—our essential
existence of sun. Sun is separately existing. In      many, each and every thing, you will find           characteristic. If our essential characteristic is
spite of distributing for millions of years heat,     there is some difference. You can sit down at       to render loving service to Kåñëa, then our
the reservation of heat in the sun is intact. It is   a place in New York and go on counting and          primary duty is to focus our attention on
not diminished. But everyone knows that for           seeing all people passing before you—you            awakening this loving service, or bhakti, in
millions and billions of years the sun is             won’t find one man is exactly like the other        ourselves and helping others achieve the same
distributing heat. Nobody knows the history,          man. Not only that, in court, you know, every       goal.
how long. Your distributing center, the               one of you know, that they take impression of
powerhouse, if you fail to supply coal or oil,        the left hand thumb impression. Now, this
then after one hour the whole New York City           thumb impression... You go on taking
will be dark. So just you can imagine who is          millions and millions of thumb impression,
supplying the fuel in the heat of the sun so          and you won’t find one thumb impression is
that for millions and billions of years the heat      exactly like the other. And because there is
of the sun is in the same temperature. So this        difference of thumb impression, therefore the
is only one of the creation of the God, God’s         identity is taken in that way, that “This
creation. But just imagine. If God’s creation         particular man’s thumb impression, even if he
is so unlimited and so much energetic, then           denies his signature, the thumb impression
how much energetic and how much powerful              will collaborate that his signature is this.” So
is the creator? That is to be... These things are     that is God’s creation.
to be thought. In everything, everything, we
can have God consciousness. If this watch is          >>> Ref. VedaBase => Lecture on Mahä-
so wonderful workmanship and we are struck            mantra -- New York, September 8, 1966
with wonder how nicely it is giving time, how
the machine is adjusted, now, before                  Living in harmony with one’ nature
appreciating this watch, how much we have             Let’s first consider nature. Everything has its
to appreciate the person who has discovered           particular nature, a unique and essential
this watch, how much brain he has got?                quality that defines its existence. In this sense
Before appreciating a powerful brain in this          we can say that the dharma of sugar is its
world, one should appreciate who has given            sweetness, or the dharma of water is its ability
him this powerful brain. If the man has               to quench our thirst with its pure taste.
attained that powerful brain out of his own           Each of us has an essential nature, too, and if
accord, then great powerful brain like                we live in harmony with our essential nature,
Professor Einstein, Sir Jagadish Chandra              or dharma, we feel deeply satisfied. But as
Bose, they could create another brain like            human beings, what is our dharma?
them so that in their absence there would not         According to the timeless wisdom of the
have been scarcity of scientist and powerful          Vedas, our dharma is a characteristic not of
brain. But they could not do that. Therefore          our body but of our soul—the spark of divine
they are not creator of the powerful brain. The       consciousness within. Each of us has this
powerful brain is gift of the supreme powerful        spark within. It emanates from the Supreme
brain.                                                Soul, Kåñëa, who may be likened to a cosmic
So in every respect, if we think... This is           fire, the source of all the divine sparks that
called philosophy. If we have got thoughtful          are our very selves.
propensities, if we can little think over every       And the dharma of each spark of divine
matter, you will find that God is present             consciousness is to dance in harmony around
everywhere, and still, He is personally present       the central fire, Kåñëa, the original supreme
in His own place. The same example: the sun           personality. We are all unique, individual, and
is present everywhere by heat and light; still,       personal manifestations of Kåñëa, but our
sun, the sun, has its own location. That you          dharma is to recognize our source, to
cannot deny. Similarly, God is present                celebrate our eternal connection with Him
everywhere. Not only everywhere... We learn           through loving service. In short, our dharma,
from Brahma-saàhitä,                                  as eternally conscious selves, is to love and
eko ’py asau racayituà jagad-aëòa-koöià               serve Kåñëa, the Supreme Personality of
yac-chaktir asti jagad-aëòa-cayä yad-antam            Godhead.
aëòäntara-stha-paramäëu-cayäntara-sthaà               In material consciousness we lose sight of our
govindam ädi-puruñaà tam ahaà bhajämi                 real nature. We forget our source and
 [Bs. 5.35]                                           connection with Kåñëa. And our original
This Govinda, anädir ädir govindaù [Bs. 5.1].         dharma of selfless service to Him transforms
So the prayer is, “I worship that Govinda,”           into the false dharma of competitive
sarva-käraëa-käraëam, käraëa, “who is the             selfishness. Because we lose touch with our
cause of all causes.” Cause of all causes.            true dharma, we experience frustration and
Now, in this verse of Brahma-saàhitä we find          dissatisfaction.
that one of His plenary portion... In the Vedic       Dharma: The Way of Transcendence guides
hymns we find that God has become many.               us back to our true nature, our original
Eko bahu çyäm. God is one without second,             position as loving servants of Kåñëa.
but He has become Himself many. We are                Another meaning of dharma is “duty.” In the
also God. Out of that many, we are one. We            latter part of the twentieth century we’ve
are one. We are not separate from God. So,            experimented with the abandonment of a
but there are amongst the “many”s there is a          sense of duty and responsibility in favor of an
difference of potency, difference of potencies.       ethic of self-gratification—“If it feels good,
Srila Prabhupada provides the philosophical          At this point, a cynic may argue, "So what?          abortion     that    you     will      hear
basis for such an approach with a beautiful          Even        if    the      soul     exists,          anywhere. Euphemistically, it will be termed
analogy. When a person accustomed to living          is its existence going to solve my daily bread       as
in darkness suddenly comes upon light, he is         problem?"           The           Vedic              "pregnancy termination (PT) by unwanted
likely to think that the darkness has produced       scriptures explain that ignorance about the          tissue         removal".           As
light. The truth however is exactly the              soul      has     caused      the    bread           the embryo interferes with enjoyment, it is
opposite. Light is the origin, the beginning         problem and, in fact, all other problems. Let        declared           to            be
and the absence of light is known as darkness.       us                    see                   how.     an "unwanted tissue" and is "removed".
So light is the source of darkness and not the                                                            Tomorrow           man            will
other way round.                                     The universally accepted goal of life is the         declare even his old parents as "unwanted
Similarly, the modern scientist is accustomed        quest           for           happiness.             tissue"                 and
to dwelling in the world of matter, studying         When man is unaware of his actual identity as        "remove" them also. And then his business
electrons, atoms, molecules, and other such          a            spiritual           being,              rivals,                  his
insentient nonliving things. And when he             then, consciously or unconsciously, his              co-inheritors of property... and who knows
stumbles upon life in a complicated                  conception       of     his      own      self       where                     it
combination of matter, he automatically tends        is a lump of chemicals which has "by chance"         will stop, if at all it ever stops?
to think that life has come from matter. But         come         "alive".       The        quest
no one has been able to come up with even a          for happiness then degenerates into a savage         And at a global level, the unrestricted
theory to explain how life came from matter,         struggle            for           carnal             exploitation          of         the
leave alone replicate such a `lucky accident'        enjoyment. Wealth, women and wine (www)              environment by modern man in order to
in the laboratory!                                   become        the      only      goals     of        facilitate        his          sense
On the other hand, our practical experience          life. Such a conception of life is individually      enjoyment has brought the entire planet on
shows that an intelligent living person can          frustrating,                socially                 the        brink    of      destruction.
easily create a variety of things; a carpenter       disastrous and globally unsustainable.               Ozone layer depletion, global warming,
creates a bureau, a civil engineer makes a                                                                extensive           deforestation...
skyscraper, an automobile engineer produces          The fundamental need of the individual is            the       list   goes     on       and   on
a Mercedes. There is absolutely no experience        love;      everyone        wants       to    love
of the raw materials aligning by themselves          and be loved. But "if I am just a lump of            Thus the belief that man is a product of matter
into a useful product. Just imagine what             chemicals and so is the other                        is            a               demoniac
would happen to the unemployment rate                person, then what is the meaning of love             conception, which is creating demoniac
worldwide if that happened!                          between              two               bags          people.       It        leads        to      a
                                                     of chemicals?" In the modern times, love is a        setting, wherein ethics, morality, selflessness,
The point is that it is far more logical,            much-touted                                          love             all             become
rational, reasonable and even scientific (used       word, but what passes of as love is nothing          utterly meaningless. Although the scientists,
in the broadest sense) to infer that the starting    but                       bestial                    who          teach            such         a
point of everything was a living person rather       lust for sensuous gratification. Actual love is      philosophy, may also feebly exhort us to "be
than a dead singularity. Lord Kelvin, one of         selfless.                                            good",         but           such         an
the world's greatest physicist, has stated this      So if the love between a young boy and a             appeal falls on deaf ears. "If the goal of life is
same conclusion in these profound words, `If         young                girl               is           to             enjoy                and
you think deeply enough, you will be forced          actually "divine and eternal", as they would         I am here for who knows how long and there
by science to believe in God.'                       have          us        believe,           why       is      no        life       after      death,
DID MAN CREATE GOD?                                  does that love disappear into thin air when the      then why wait? Just enjoy. Beg, borrow, steal
Of course, it should be emphasized that the          girl         burns           her          face       or       even          kill,       but       enjoy."
conception of God is not a `survival                 in an accident or the boy loses his wealth in a
mechanism' that the evolving man came up             stock            market               crash?         Dr Benito F Reyes has expressed the present
with to succeed in his struggle for existence.       The harsh truth is that, in the material             situation        in         blunt
The wonders of creation all around us bear           conception        of      life,     there      can   terms, "In rejecting the soul, humanity,
eloquent testimony for a superintelligent            be no such thing as real love. People put up a       science       has       committed
creator. Organs of extraordinary complexity          facade           of           love          as       treason         against         humanity."
in our own body such as the eye and the brain        long as they get some gratification from the
defy all reductionistic explanations. In             other                      person.                   A cynic may argue at this point, "Would all
Darwin's own words, `To suppose that the eye         When that stops, they dispose off their object       problems            disappear
could have been formed by evolution, seems,          of        love        (?)         just       as      just    by    accepting      the    soul?".
I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.'     fast as they would dispose of a dysfunctional
The incredibly delicate ecological balance in        TV.        And        in        their      heart     The Vedic scripture state they would not arise
nature, the mind-boggling magnitude of the           of hearts, people know that no one loves             at        all.         When            an
solar energy and thousands of similar                them, no one cares for them.                         individual understands that the essence of his
fantastic facets of the world insist that there is   Naturally they feel lonely, rejected, insecure       being            is           spiritual
an intelligence behind them. (Refer to the           and         frustrated.          This         is     and that the body is just an outer dress, he
previous issue A giant in a tiny package') In        the root cause of stress, hypertension,              seeks          happiness,            not
simple words, man did not create God; rather         depression,           addiction             of       at the material level, but at the spiritual level.
God created man and everything else.                 various types, delinquency and even suicide.         Every          soul          is         a
In this issue, we discussed how even                                                                      beloved son of God and, just as a son gets
accepting that a big bang occurred, there is         If there is any semblance of love still              happiness        by      serving         his
ample scientific room to consider that `God          remaining      in     society,     it     is         father, the soul gets happiness by serving
might have caused the big bang.' In                  only because of the culture coming from past         God.      In       the     loving       care
subsequent issues, we will discuss whether           generations.         And            the              of his father, God, every individual
the big bang is actually a scientifically            spreading of hedonistic ideas is destroying          experiences      the    ultimate       peace,
admissible theory at all and, even if it is, what    even          such            vestiges               the highest joy and the greatest fulfillment.
it requires to get from the big bang to where        dreadfully fast. Since time immemorial, the
the universe is at present. Do join us as we         epitome       of       selfless       love           And God being the universal father, a genuine
continue on a journey that expands the               has been the love of a mother for her child.         spiritualist          sees       all
frontiers of science and even goes beyond            But          modern           values(?)              living beings as his own brothers and loves
them.                                                encourage mothers to murder their children           them           selflessly,     truly.
                                                     even     before     they      are      born.         An eternally cherished example of this is
                                                     Of course that is not the description of             Jesus      Christ,     who lay      down
his life just for the upliftment of his brethren.    awareness.                                        monkey arrive on time and the monkey sits
                                                                                                       dutifully in front of the typewriter and starts
And for a spiritualist, nature is not an             WHEN MONKEYS STARTED TYPING!                      typing (Thank goodness!) After 1 hour, what
insentient      object     meant      to             Typists all over the world, beware. Your jobs     will you see? Some gibberish. Maybe 1 small
be exploited to the utmost. For him, nature is       are in danger. You have competition….from         word here or there. And at end of the day?
a       loving        mother,      who               monkeys. That’s what the scientists would         Several pages of meaningless typed pages.
is providing him all that he needs. Thus he          have us believe. At least those scientists who    You may find a few meaningful words – but
uses      the     gifts    of     Mother             advocate the chance theory.                       only with great difficulty. (It is after all too
Nature in the service of the Supreme Father                                                            much to expect the monkey to press a
with      love,     care      and    restraint.      Chance is a popular word today in the world       spacebar exactly after a meaningful word is
                                                     of science. And why not? It is the one- word      completed!)
One of the smallest seeds has packaged               answer to all the questions that scientists       Day 2. Again the monkey sits down diligently
within     it     the      biggest     living        always found very disconcerting. How did the      and you sit behind him and he starts playing.
thing on earth - the giant sequoia tree. It          incredibly vast universe with all its mind-       Eight hours later, you are again looking at
grows      over       300      feet     high.        boggling order come about? How did the            several printed pages struggling to find even a
Four feet above the ground its diameter may          atom with its intricate design come? Even the     few meaningful words somewhere.
be     36     feet.    One       tree    may         tiniest cell is far more complex than the         Day 10. “History repeats itself” You begin to
contain enough wood to build 50 six-room             biggest factory on earth. How in the wide         realize that whoever said that knew what he
houses.         The         two-foot-thick           world did it come from simple starting            was speaking about. The search for
bark is flavored with tannin that repels             elements? Pat comes the reply to all these        meaningful words in streams and streams of
insects,       and        its       spongy,          questions, with a triumphant smile, “Chance.”     meaningless texts is getting on your nerves.
fibrous texture makes it as fireproof as                                                               Day 100. It is obvious to you by now that
asbestos.       Its       roots       cover          The Big Dogma                                     what you are looking for is never to be found.
three or four acres. It lives over 3000 years.       That there is absolutely no empiric evidence      Whether it is day 10^0 or 10^2 or 10^1,000 or
                                                     for anything ever having come by chance           10^100000……00000…, it really doesn’t
Yet the seed that sequoia tree rains down by         doesn’t really matter. In the religion of         matter. The result of the monkey’ typing is
the       millions         are       not             science, there is one unspoken dogma which        always going to be the same – nonsense. He
much bigger than a pinhead surrounded by             practically everyone agrees upon: any theory,     is not going to learn by experience!
tiny     wings.      A      puny      man            no matter how coherent and systematic, is
standing at a sequoia's base can only gaze           unacceptable and “unscientific” if it brings an   Now let’s assume that the monkey starts
upward      in      silent     awe       at          ultimate creator into the picture. And            working in 24 hour shifts (We won’t ask you
its massive grandeur. Does it make sense to          conversely, any theory, no matter how             to supervise, don’t worry!) Still that is not
believe      that       the      shaping             improbable and untenable, is joyfully             going to make any difference. A 24 hour shift
of the majestic giant and of the tiny seed that      embraced if it helps in pushing God out. This     is just like three 8-hour shifts with no break in
packages        it        was        not             scientific (?) mentality is typified by the       between. So just as three 8-hour shifts don’t
by                                     design?       following statement of William Bonner (pg         give any fruitful results, one 24-hour shift
                                                     119, Mystery of Expanding Universe), “It is       will similarly bear no fruit. And just as 8-hour
Let us see what leading scientists say on            the business of science to offer rational         shifts repeated 10^1000….. times don’t lead
observing      such       amazing                    explanations for all events in the real world,    to any coherent text, neither will 24 hour
creations           in             nature:           and any scientist who calls on God to explain     shifts repeated 10^1000….. times.
                                                     something is failing in his job. This is one
Famed British scientist Sir James Jean says,         piece of dogmatism that a scientist can allow     The point is that the probability of a monkey
"Today      there     is      a     wide             himself.”                                         typing out all the works of Shakespeare, if
measure of agreement that the stream of                                                                given millions of years, is not an
knowledge      is   heading       towards            No wonder then that the chance theory has         infinitesimally small number; it is zero. No
a non-mechanical reality. The universe begins        found many adherents in spite of the absence      matter how many millions, billion,
to     look       more       like     a              of even scanty evidence. For a mind               quadrillions or whatever number of years are
great thought than a great machine"                  programmed since birth to think in a              given to the monkey (assuming he lives that
                                                     mechanistic (read ‘atheistic’) way, chance is a   long!), still the probability always remains
Lord Kelvin, one of the world's greatest             far more comforting word to hear than God as      zero.
physicists,    has      made      the                the ultimate causative principle.
following thought provoking statement: "If                                                             Thus even in principle randomness does not
you      think    strongly    enough,                The monkey business                               produce order on any appreciable scale,
you will be forced by science to believe in          Now let us consider whether the chance            irrespective of the time given.
God."                                                theory is possible leave even in principle. In
                                                     the words of the eighteenth century atheistic     Simple common sense, isn’t it? But “common
Nobel-prize-winning physicist Robert A.              philosophers Denis Diderot & David Hume:          sense is not so common”, especially in Kali
Millikan,     said     at     a    meeting           Given infinite time, nature would by chance       Yuga and especially in the scientific
of the American Physical Society: "There is a        alone eventually hit on the order that we see     community.
Divinity          that          shapes               around us. A modern version of this theory
our ends...A purely materialistic philosophy is      takes the form of an analogy (first introduced    So typists, sorry for the false alarm. But don’t
to      me       the        height      of           by the famous Eddington): A monkey, if            blame us; we didn’t set it on; rather we are
unintelligence. Wise men in all the ages have        given infinite time, can by itself type the       setting it off.
always       seen         enough        to           works of Shakespeare. To gullible minds
at     least     make       them      reverent."     trained to worship scientists as “the             The Small Bang Construction Company
                                                     champions of truth”, this analogy appears         An entrepreneur got really excited when he
The duty of a true scientist, therefore, is not to   plausible. And since the time scale involved      first heard about the big bang theory. The
dogmatically                  deny                   makes it impossible to verify empirically, the    very next day he inaugurated his own
and defy God, but to appreciate His                  chance theory has assumed the status of an        construction company, ‘The Small Bang
inconceivable         brain,     understand          infallible truth.                                 Construction       Company.’      His     only
Him & His plan for the creation & cooperate                                                            infrastructure – rods of dynamite. His mission
with       Him.       Last,      but     not         Let’s do some simple common sense analysis        statement: “Just as a big bang constructed the
the least, a true scientist should also explain      of the monkey’s typing adventures. Suppose        whole universe, I will, by small bangs,
all         these           metaphysical             that you are told to supervise the monkey and     construct small houses.” His business soon
realities of life to the masses, thus creating a     suppose you and the monkey are told to work       went bankrupt. Don’t you think that the big
worldwide                  spiritual                 in 8-hour shifts. Day 1. Both you and the         bang theorists should pay for it? Poor fellow.
After all, his only fault is that he believed the
big bangers. Little did he know that his bank
account would also experience a big bang
because of his faith in the big bang!
If chance, why copyrights?
When Srila Prabhupada was told that the
French scien
tist Dr J Monod won the Nobel Prize in 1965
for his theory that everything came by
chance, he at once challenged, “If everything
came by chance, then even his theory came
by chance! Then what is his credit?” If
everything has come by chance, why do
scientists copyright their theories. Everything
has come by chance, except, of course, their
theories! A remarkably self-serving theory, to
say the very least!
Goodbye, Mr Chance.
Nothing comes by chance; even the chance
theory doesn’t come by chance. Everything,
especially everything well-organized, has an
intelligent designer behind it. So the huge
universe and all things in it necessitate a
super-intelligent designer.