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Leviathan Wakes by James S.A. Corey
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Read 2 times. Last read August 28, 2019.

Okay, I admit it. I was wrong. It's a solid 3-plus star read. Not quite a four, there are a few focus issues...extended time spent in Eros's casino level, f/ex...where the point gets made a bit harder than is good for the story. But my dismissive early review is wrong.

Real Rating: 2.5* of five
**UPDATE 23 October 2018** The Kindle edition is a whopping $2.99! Even *I* would buy it at that price...if I hadn't already read it.

**UPDATE 24 JUNE 2018** I love the series, now in its third season, a lot. I was delighted to see the folks at Amazon Prime Video will give it a fourth season. But this video presents a really good reason why the book is good. (I'm not a fan, but the podcaster makes a really case for it.)

**UPDATE 22 December 2016** This is a mea-culpa of epic proportions. Syfy did a stellar job of making this series. I couldn't have been more wrong about the series, though I still don't like the books. This YouTube video of a Google Talk from 2014 is a terrific proof of why the series works so well. Excellent television! Binge on the series at Prime for the holidays.

**UPDATE 6 September 2013** More Suckass News Dept, from SFSignal: "Variety is reporting that scribes Mark Fergus and Hawk Ostby (Iron Man and Children of Men) will script the pilot of the how called The Expanse, which is based on the series of novels written by Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck under the pseudonym James S.A. Corey.

The book series consists of Leviathan Wakes, Caliban’s War, Abaddon’s Gate and the soon-to-be-released Cibola Burn.

The Expanse will be an hour long SciFi drama “with elements of a detective procedural, centring on a cover-up of the discovery of alien life”.

Not much else is known at this point. Stay tuned!"

Yuck. Couldn't pick a GOOD series. No no no.

The Publisher Says: Humanity has colonized the solar system - Mars, the Moon, the Asteroid Belt and beyond - but the stars are still out of our reach.

Jim Holden is XO of an ice miner making runs from the rings of Saturn to the mining stations of the Belt. When he and his crew stumble upon a derelict ship, The Scopuli, they find themselves in possession of a secret they never wanted. A secret that someone is willing to kill for - and kill on a scale unfathomable to Jim and his crew. War is brewing in the system unless he can find out who left the ship and why.

Detective Miller is looking for a girl. One girl in a system of billions, but her parents have money and money talks. When the trail leads him to The Scopuli and rebel sympathizer Holden, he realizes that this girl may be the key to everything.

Holden and Miller must thread the needle between the Earth government, the Outer Planet revolutionaries, and secretive corporations - and the odds are against them. But out in the Belt, the rules are different, and one small ship can change the fate of the universe.

My Review: Exactly half-way to a five-star world-beating yodel-worthy space opera. An extremely interesting choice of time to explore, sort of late Red Mars-to-early-Green Mars time. A choice group of characters, the standard Hero's Journey plot, and away we go!

Only we don't so much. We stall out on characterization...flat-ish, unsurprising...we hop around in PoV terms until I feel like a flea on a chihuahua that ate some coffee beans and is more manic than usual. We keep events hurtling along, far too many of them in fact, and we mangle our hands in the machinery of alienness.

We did too much, ate too much, played too rough. Our tummy hurts now, and we need a nap.

Plus? I hate the ending so much I want to send the editor a nastygram. THIS COULD HAVE AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED. It's not for the author to do, this is a collaboration and that means sometimes a referee is needed. This was one of them. No way would I read the next book! And that's sad, because I really really like The Expanse and its cool politics and people.
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August 28, 2019 – Finished Reading
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Michael So sorry you were disappointed. Had been lusting for it after it came to attention from Hugo and Locus awards. Premise did sound so promising.

To compensate, you might consider trying the space opera of Pushing Ice by Alastair Reynolds. You get your cool, tough asteroid miner culture. Then the heroes get taken for a ride chasing an alien ship. Lots of fun, with deflation of the awe and wonder of discovery by typical human jealousies.


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Camilla I put it down after one chapter. It seemed kind of subtly sexist to me, as well as not being the super exciting space opera everyone said it was. Like you and Michael said, the premise was so promising.


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nicoll lu Damn, and it sounds so promising. Nothing pisses me off more then a good story turned to crap by poor treatment. I'll still check it out, just in case. You never know.


Richard Derus Michael wrote: "So sorry you were disappointed. Had been lusting for it after it came to attention from Hugo and Locus awards. Premise did sound so promising.

To compensate, you might consider trying the space ..."


Interesting that you'd say that...I was looking for another version of Pushing Ice when I picked this up! I really enjoy Reynolds's writing, and the stories he chooses to tell.


Richard Derus Leanne wrote: "I put it down after one chapter. It seemed kind of subtly sexist to me, as well as not being the super exciting space opera everyone said it was. Like you and Michael said, the premise was so promi..."

Naomi was a huge disappointment to me, as she was characterized. (view spoiler)

I like space opera, so I was pretty bummed by the fail.


Richard Derus nicoll wrote: "Damn, and it sounds so promising. Nothing pisses me off more then a good story turned to crap by poor treatment. I'll still check it out, just in case. You never know."

You might disagree with me completely! Many do. I hope, when you read it, that it makes you grin from ear to ear.


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nicoll lu Richard wrote: "nicoll wrote: "Damn, and it sounds so promising. Nothing pisses me off more then a good story turned to crap by poor treatment. I'll still check it out, just in case. You never know."

You might di..."


The thing is, I always get reluctant when the possibility of disappointment rears its ugly head (at least when books are concerned). I get unnaturally upset when a book doesn't fulfill its potential, when I see how good it could have been with a bit more effort and love put into it.


Richard Derus nicoll wrote: "The thing is, I always get reluctant when the possibility of disappointment rears its ugly head (at least when books are concerned). I get unnaturally upset when a book doesn't fulfill its potential, when I see how good it could have been with a bit more effort and love put into it."

The book is a collaboration. One author, Daniel Abraham, has a number of books published, so permaybehaps you'd get a reasonable sample of what to expect from the book by reading one of those. The other author is George RR Martin's assistant.

In this case, I blame the editor not the author(s) because it's self-evident that a collaboration needs a neutral third party to break ties.


David This book has been sitting on my reader waiting to be read for a while. I've been looking forward to it, but I hear mixed things about Daniel Abraham's writing. Hmm.

Anyway, I haven't loved Alastair Reynolds that much, so maybe I will like this better.


Richard Derus David wrote: "This book has been sitting on my reader waiting to be read for a while. I've been looking forward to it, but I hear mixed things about Daniel Abraham's writing. Hmm.

Anyway, I haven't loved Alasta..."


It will repay your making the effort, I have no doubt.


Richard Derus Michael wrote: "My tummy hurts too. But. From LOL @ your review. Good one."

You're too kind. I was a mite cranky when I put this together, but I am still stinging with the disappointment.


message 12: by Ben (new) - rated it 2 stars

Ben Wand You are right on with your review. The book really needed another revision and at least 100 pages trimmed out. Way too much eating/drinking/laying around between action. Holden's character really lost steam about halfway through the book. And yes, the ending was really bad.


Richard Derus Ben wrote: "You are right on with your review. The book really needed another revision and at least 100 pages trimmed out. Way too much eating/drinking/laying around between action. Holden's character really l..."

Thank you for dropping in to validate me, Ben.


message 14: by Igor (new) - rated it 5 stars

Igor Ljubuncic Actually, I am now more intrigued than ever.
Igor


Richard Derus Igor wrote: "Actually, I am now more intrigued than ever.
Igor"


I read Caliban's War and it was no better. I'd say watch the show, it's head and shoulders atop the books. Just stellar. Proof that The Expanse is a world-beating idea with very relatable characters and deep, deep story wells.


Richard Derus Lance wrote: "I've been trying to read it. Have forced myself to about page 130.
I enjoyed your review more than any part of the book. I may abandon it."


Thanks, Lance, the kind words are a balm in this age. (Gratuitous Firefly reference.) I say, if you're past p50, your job is done. Abandon ship.


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Rob Thompson I gave this a similar rating .... great minds, eh?


Richard Derus Rob wrote: "I gave this a similar rating .... great minds, eh?"

At least this is the single thought, not some silliness like a cure for cancer or the fool-proof way to achieve world peace. Let's share the important one!

/irony


Daniel Agreed that the book needed editing. I was gripped by the story for the first half of it, then began to lose interest when the two main characters met up, and it only picked back up during the twist complication near the end, but even then the chapters were getting slowed by prose that covered the obvious or redundant.

Commenting here to ask: Did anyone stick with the book series? Does it get better?


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