Decrease wgWatchersMaxAge to 30 days, and display this on `action=info`
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As part of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey proposal to Change information about the number of watchers on a page, the $wgWatchersMaxAge variable should be decreased to 2592000 (30 * 24 * 3600 = 30 days).

Additionally, the Number of page watchers who visited recent edits label on action=info should specify this time period — i.e. Number of page watchers who visited recent edits in the last X days

Acceptance criteria

$wgWatchersMaxAge is reduced from 15552000 (180 days) to 2592000 (30 days)
action=info displays the time period computed from $wgWatchersMaxAge

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Other Assignee: TheresNoTime

	Subject	Repo	Branch	Lines +/-
	InfoAction: Explain to users how long WatchersMaxAge is, not just 'recent'	mediawiki/core	master	+9 -3
	InitialiseSettings: Set wgWatchersMaxAge=30days	operations/mediawiki-config	master	+4 -0

Customize query in gerrit

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Mentioned Here: T363659: [[MediaWiki:Pageinfo-visiting-watchers]] cannot be properly translated (plurals versus dealing with vague time)

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TheresNoTime created this task.May 9 2023, 11:12 AM

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TheresNoTime added a project: Community-Wishlist-Survey-2023.May 9 2023, 11:13 AM

FYI changing the config variable will require following https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes

Change 919023 had a related patch set uploaded (by Sarah Mukuti; author: Sarah Mukuti):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] InitialiseSettings: Set wgWatchersMaxAge=30days

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/919023

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.May 11 2023, 10:23 AM

Change 919023 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] InitialiseSettings: Set wgWatchersMaxAge=30days

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/919023

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-05-18T13:06:09Z] <samtar@deploy1002> Started scap: Backport for [[gerrit:919023|InitialiseSettings: Set wgWatchersMaxAge=30days (T336250)]]

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-05-18T13:07:40Z] <samtar@deploy1002> samtar and s-mukuti: Backport for [[gerrit:919023|InitialiseSettings: Set wgWatchersMaxAge=30days (T336250)]] synced to the testservers: mwdebug1002.eqiad.wmnet, mwdebug1001.eqiad.wmnet, mwdebug2001.codfw.wmnet, mwdebug2002.codfw.wmnet

Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.May 18 2023, 1:10 PM

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-05-18T13:14:54Z] <samtar@deploy1002> Finished scap: Backport for [[gerrit:919023|InitialiseSettings: Set wgWatchersMaxAge=30days (T336250)]] (duration: 08m 45s)

wgWatchersMaxAge has been reduced from 180 days to 30 days — the Number of page watchers who visited recent edits shown in page information will likely have dropped to reflect this change

TheresNoTime assigned this task to • S_Mukuti.May 18 2023, 1:50 PM

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TheresNoTime updated Other Assignee, added: TheresNoTime.

Johan moved this task from To Triage to In current Tech/News draft on the User-notice board.May 19 2023, 3:49 PM

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Change 923692 had a related patch set uploaded (by EllenR; author: EllenR):

[mediawiki/extensions/MediaModeration@master] WIP cont verify that file is an image

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/923692

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.May 26 2023, 6:52 PM

it only remains to update the number of watched pages who visited recent edits in the last 30 days.

• S_Mukuti removed • S_Mukuti as the assignee of this task.Jun 27 2023, 1:17 PM

• S_Mukuti edited projects, added Patch-Needs-Improvement; removed Patch-For-Review.

Samwilson moved this task from Proposals to In Progress on the Wikimedia Wishathon board.Feb 2 2024, 9:28 AM

Change #1018728 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jforrester; author: Jforrester):

[mediawiki/core@master] InfoAction: Explain to users how long WatchersMaxAge is, not just 'recent'

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1018728

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Apr 10 2024, 2:39 PM

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Related to this, do we need to add a check for "too few"? There are many pages at the English Wikipedia that have 30+ "watchers" (so the number gets shown) but a single-digit number of watchers who are active editors. People can see "on 50 watchlists, but zero active editors are actually available" (officially, "There may or may not be a watching user visiting recent edits"). It might be better if it wasn't so easy to see that zero or only one person (probably you) were watching a page.

Change #1018728 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] InfoAction: Explain to users how long WatchersMaxAge is, not just 'recent'

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1018728

Krinkle added a project: MediaWiki-Platform-Team (Radar).Apr 11 2024, 12:13 AM

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Pppery added projects: MediaWiki-Platform-Team (Radar), MW-1.43-notes (1.43.0-wmf.1; 2024-04-16).

In T363659#9765007, @gerritbot wrote:

Change #1025677 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] InfoAction: Specify days directly in pageinfo-visiting-watchers

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1025677

Krinkle closed this task as Resolved.May 14 2024, 4:45 PM

Krinkle assigned this task to Jdforrester-WMF.

Krinkle triaged this task as Medium priority.

Maintenance_bot edited projects, added User-notice-archive; removed User-notice.May 24 2024, 5:30 PM

WikiFer updated the task description. (Show Details)Jun 3 2024, 7:08 AM