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This will mean we may use 7000+ languages in Wikidata terms, monolingual texts and lexemes; Abstract Wikipedia will also benefit from it.

(For translating language names, see T231755: Local language name should be translatable in translatewiki.net)

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In T151269#2822033, @Nikki wrote:

I had a look at that tracker and found http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/9137 where two of the codes here (fkv and sje) were already requested but rejected. Given the following comment, it seems like it would be a waste of time to request the addition of more languages there:

We agreed to document there is no intent for CLDR to have the English names of all languages (there are over 7,000) of them, and point to http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry as a source for any extra ones that people need.

(Not only those MediaWiki supported) See parent tasks for use cases. They should preferably be translatable, but there should be a way to prevent duplicates in translation.

http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry is a good resource.

Also we may adapt an existing MediaWiki extension, like CLDR.

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Bugreporter created this task.Jun 25 2017, 4:05 PM

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Bugreporter added parent tasks: T151269: Add English names for languages which don't yet have one, T64714: Some language tags show wrong language ("English") in Babel boxes, T54971: [Goal] Sitelinks and arbitrary accesses to Incubator, OldWikisource and BetaWikiversity.Jun 25 2017, 4:07 PM

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Would this be intended to provide a full solution to T151269? If so, it would also need to support non-standard MediaWiki languages (e.g. "nl-informal") and IETF language tags with countries, scripts or other variants (e.g. pt-br, ku-arab, be-tarask).

IETF language tags with countries, scripts or other variants can be easily generated as valid (non private use) subtags are finite.

Babel extension already bundles the IANA registry, but does not register the English names with MediaWiki.

What do you mean by "list name of all languages"? A special page like Special:SiteMatrix but just with a super-long table of language codes and names?

It would be more useful to have MediaWiki find all the language codes (and names) it actually needs, e.g. for #language, #babel, ULS. The main obstacle to that is having a map from custom to "real" language codes i.e. T59133: Search in CLDR-aliased language codes, but output corresponding MediaWiki locale code (or $wgLanguageCode or wikiId?), AFAICT.

No. As Babel extension already bundles the IANA registry, you may try to make other extension use this piece of data (e.g. T151269: Add English names for languages which don't yet have one). Most of the content in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ECLD/browse/master/LocalNames/LocalNamesEn.php can then be eliminated.

However, even we have this kind of information in IANA registry, allow translating the language names is useful.

I'm going to add another use case.

Bugreporter added a parent task: T168833: Show language names if they are registered in IANA registry.Jun 26 2017, 9:39 AM

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Harej moved this task from Incoming to Confirmed Extension Requests on the MediaWiki-extension-requests board.Jan 29 2018, 8:27 PM

Nikki mentioned this in T124758: [Story] Show all available languages in monolingual text value's suggester.Mar 13 2019, 7:08 PM

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Bugreporter renamed this task from Create or adapt an extension to list name of all languages with ISO 639-1/2/3 codes to Integrate IANA language registry with language-data and MediaWiki (let MediaWiki "knows" all languages with ISO 639-1/2/3 codes).Jun 15 2021, 10:43 AM

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Bugreporter mentioned this in T289776: Enable all ISO 639-3 codes on Wikidata.Aug 26 2021, 4:52 PM

Bugreporter mentioned this in T277505: Add Ojibwe (oj), to Names.php.May 9 2022, 8:53 PM

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Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE mentioned this in T341409: [TECH] Use LanguageNameUtils::ALL for monolingual text and lexemes.Sep 7 2023, 10:57 AM

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