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Let f(M,k) denote the decimal concatenation of k numbers starting with M: M | M-1 | M-2 | ... | M-k+1, k > 1. Then a(n) is the smallest M such that for all m in {1,..,n} an m-th prime occurs as f(M,k) for the smallest possible k, order prioritized m = 1 through n.
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#98 by N. J. A. Sloane at Tue Aug 11 13:36:59 EDT 2015
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#97 by N. J. A. Sloane at Tue Aug 11 13:36:56 EDT 2015
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Considering proper Let f(M,k) denote the decimal concatenations f(M,concatenation of k) = numbers starting with M: M | M-1 | M-2 | ... | M-k+1, k > 1, . Then a(n) is the smallest M such that for all m in {1,..,n} an m-th prime occurs as f(M,k) for the smallest possible k, order prioritized m = 1 through n.

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The definition is not clear to me. - N. J. A. Sloane, Aug 11 2015

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nonn,base,more,hard,changed,obsc

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#96 by N. J. A. Sloane at Tue Aug 11 13:34:31 EDT 2015
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#95 by James G. Merickel at Tue Aug 11 07:01:49 EDT 2015
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Discussion
Tue Aug 11
07:05
James G. Merickel: Wasn't essential, but it probably confuses to use 'this' to refer to what would normally be 'that'.
07:20
James G. Merickel: You understand why this sequence is more likely to yield to a search for a(7) more easily than the twin sequence, right? Even though it appears less constrained and has a shorter maximal concatenation, we're essentially comparing 1/(2*4*8*10*14*20*28) with 1/(5*7*11*13*17*23*25).
07:21
James G. Merickel: The latter, twin, sequence that is.
09:33
James G. Merickel: The title of the twin would/will be the simpler "Considering proper decimal concatenations f(M,k) = M | M-1 | M-2 | ... | M-k+1, a(n) is the smallest M such that the n-th value of k with f(M,k) prime is as small as possible."
09:44
James G. Merickel: Summary of what I've done: Verbally added the requested quantifier and erased the very end of the title, and changed the k(m) to just k in the title, and changed the parenthetical referring to the title; then restored the end of the title; and improved one of the longer sentences to make it somewhat less opaque. All else here is commentary on the sequences and my problems knowing what might be wanted until it's said.
10:08
Charles R Greathouse IV: I still don't understand the definition. I take it the k are chosen greedily?
#94 by James G. Merickel at Tue Aug 11 07:00:18 EDT 2015
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The alternative sequence where only the rapidity of arrival of the n-th prime determines a(n) (k minimal for the largest prime, with no constraint on k for the smaller prime concatenations) necessarily shares its first 5 terms in common with this one. It also shares its 6th by virtue of the fact that this sequence's a(6) is the only value less than 10^12 producing its 6th prime with the attachment of the 20th value, whether alternative length possibilities for primes are allowed or not (i.e., the first cases giving 5 other smaller primes -- in addition to one of 20 concatenated values -- where there is a prime concatenation of 16 values, in place of one of either 2 or 8 values, are both at least this large). However, it does necessarily differ at a(7) and a(8) (but then not necessarily at a(9)), as the resolution of the theoretical problem in this case for the twin sequence is given for a(7) by the possibility of 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 23 and 25 numbers being concatenated to give primes, and for a(8) by the replacement of 2 concatenated values with concatenations of both 16 and 26 of them (with result that a(8) for this alternative sequence appears already with concatenation of 28 values, while here that corresponds to a(7)).

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Tue Aug 11
07:01
James G. Merickel: 'in this case' --> ' for the twin sequence' (seems a reasonably obvious way to refer to it).
#93 by James G. Merickel at Tue Aug 11 05:08:34 EDT 2015
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#92 by James G. Merickel at Tue Aug 11 05:08:17 EDT 2015
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Considering proper decimal concatenations f(M,k) = M | M-1 | M-2 | ... | M-k+1, k > 1, a(n) is the smallest M such that for all m in {1,..,n} an m-th prime occurs as f(M,k) for the smallest possible k, order prioritized m = 1 through n.

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#91 by James G. Merickel at Tue Aug 11 04:57:22 EDT 2015
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Discussion
Tue Aug 11
04:59
James G. Merickel: My relationship to people at universities is decades ago now, none local.
05:00
James G. Merickel: So, it's just looking and assuming I will get something or nothing and have to wait and see.
05:07
James G. Merickel: Probably clearer not to drop the ending of the title.
#90 by James G. Merickel at Tue Aug 11 04:54:14 EDT 2015
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Considering proper decimal concatenations f(M,k) = M | M-1 | M-2 | ... | M-k+1, k > 1, a(n) is the smallest M such that for all m in {1,..,n} an m-th prime occurs as f(M,k) for the smallest possible k(m), , order prioritized.

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The alternative sequence where only the rapidity of arrival of the n-th prime determines a(n) (the title's k(n) minimal, but for the largest prime, with no constraint on k(m), m < n for the smaller prime concatenations) necessarily shares its first 5 terms in common with this one. It also shares its 6th by virtue of the fact that this sequence's a(6) is the only value less than 10^12 producing its 6th prime with the attachment of the 20th value, whether alternative length possibilities for primes are allowed or not (i.e., the first cases giving 5 other smaller primes -- in addition to one of 20 concatenated values -- where there is a prime concatenation of 16 values, in place of one of either 2 or 8 values, are both at least this large). However, it does necessarily differ at a(7) and a(8) (but then not necessarily at a(9)), as the resolution of the theoretical problem in this case is given for a(7) by the possibility of 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 23 and 25 numbers being concatenated to give primes, and for a(8) by the replacement of 2 concatenated values with concatenations of both 16 and 26 of them (with result that a(8) for this alternative sequence appears already with concatenation of 28 values, while here that corresponds to a(7)).

Discussion
Tue Aug 11
04:57
James G. Merickel: I dropped the 'k(m)' notationally. The change was to title and parenthetical then. Sorry I have only you online folks to get feedback from.
#89 by James G. Merickel at Tue Aug 11 04:48:00 EDT 2015
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Considering proper decimal concatenations f(M,k) = M | M-1 | M-2 | ... | M-k+1, k > 1, a(n) is the smallest M such that for all m in {1,..,n} an m-th prime occurs as f(M,k) for the smallest possible k(m), order prioritized m = 1 through n.

Discussion
Tue Aug 11
04:50
James G. Merickel: I don't think the preceding meant something different, but one doesn't need to reach the end of the sentence and review it to gather the meaning now.