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Question from George Fidel (06:34, 25 June 2024)

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Hello! I am making a new page and wanted to ask if you could look at it. It is currently in my sandbox. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:George_Fidel/sandbox --George Fidel (talk) 06:35, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @George Fidel, sorry for the late reply, I've been a bit busy lately. I've looked through the draft and I don't think it is currently ready. I think some improvements need to be made in regards to tone and referencing. Sources that are published by or related to the subject should not be referenced in the article, and the claims that these sources support should be more adequately referenced or removed. The tone should be neutral, and puffery should be avoided.
I'll be happy to look over it again, but before you continue working on the draft, could you first make sure that the subject meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. In general, all subjects of an article should have multiple sources providing significant, independent and in depth coverage to them to merit an article, if that does not exist, the draft may not be approved. Justiyaya 20:43, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Justiyaya for reviewing the draft. I'll try and get better links for referencing the article and also check on the tone. George Fidel (talk) 08:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Melbydwaekk on NCT (group) (15:50, 10 July 2024)

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Would it be appropriate to change "Spinoffs" to "Subgroups" or "Subunits" under Background Information? This would apply to other K-Pop groups as well. "Spinoff" has a strong connotation related to TV in which some element of the original work is turned into something new and existing on its own while still in the same universe as the original. In K-Pop, a subunit exists under the umbrella of its main group. In Stray Kids, 3RACHA existed prior to the main group, so spinoff does not feel like an appropriate descriptor. I apologize if this was answered somewhere, I am somewhat new to editing. --Melbydwaekk (talk) 15:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Melbydwaekk, what you are seeing comes from Template:Infobox musical artist. Generally, for edits on such a widely used template, you should establish consensus first before making or requesting a change on the template's talk page.
I think this term originated from the 2021 removal of the "Associated acts" field. It has already been discussed by a few editors in 2022 with most agreeing that the term is flawed but nothing (I believe) came out of that.
If you'd like to propose a change, start a section at Template talk:Infobox musical artist. I think it's an interesting and valid point to raise :D If you'd like me to do it, I'll be happy to but would be a bit busy before the weekend. Happy editing! Justiyaya 19:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Astromoorthy (04:16, 15 July 2024)

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Hello Mentor,

I'm trying to create an wikipage for a person. We have all citations, articles everything. Please let me know how to create a detailed wikipage. Thanks. --Astromoorthy (talk) 04:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Astromoorthy (04:18, 15 July 2024)

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We have added a wikipage earlier but now I couldn't see the page. Please let us know what happen or do we need to create a new one.

Thanks. --Astromoorthy (talk) 04:18, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Astromoorthy, you've used "we" when referring to yourself, note that shared accounts are not allowed on Wikipedia.
It'd help a lot if you could give the name of the article/page that you've made so I can try to find out why (or if) it was deleted. Nothing on your account seems to indicate that you've created a page. Justiyaya 04:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that we, . This is Moorthy. It is not shared, this page is my page. I want to create a wikipage, can you let me know how to start about it. Astromoorthy (talk) 14:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Astromoorthy, WP:1st would be a good place to go to get some guidance. Do know that writing a new article on Wikipedia is not really encouraged for beginners and could be really discouraging. You should try some tasks in the task center first if you'd like an easier start.
I'd still encourage you to point me to the name of your last article or provide more context about the one you are trying to make right now. It'd help me give much better advice Justiyaya 18:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, THank you so much for the suggestions. I have written my article, added citations, references everything and kept it under sandbox. But I cldnt see the publich button or even to point you. pelase help how to do that. Thanks. Astromoorthy (talk) 05:11, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Astromoorthy if you tell me the name of the page I could move it for you if the article is up to standards. Justiyaya 21:48, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. This is the page name - User:Astromoorthy/sandbox : Dr. S. Pothuvudaimoorthy. Can you please check.
It would be great if you can check. Thanks. Astromoorthy (talk) 10:41, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Astromoorthy, writing a autobiography is not a good idea, we generally strongly discourage it and the subject does not seem notable. In most cases, the article will not be published and it'd be a much better use of your time to do something else instead. I should've noticed the page earlier and told you but I forgot to check for it when I saw your last message. Justiyaya 01:15, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Justiyaya THanks for the feedback. I totally understand. But his is about an astrology and astrologer. When i read few wikipages, there are many pages about a single person. Not some topic, just about a single person especially film directors, singers, sportsperson, businessman, doctors etc et. Then any other issue in this page. Because this page is not for marketing purpose or any promotions.
Just wanted to understand in detail. Astromoorthy (talk) 15:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Astromoorthy, we usually only accept articles with multiple independent secondary sources providing significant coverage to the subject. Which means that the sources must cover the subject beyond brief mentions, be reputable, and not be paid for or connected to the subject. All the links in the article appears to be the same text republished as paid for promotional pages, which is why I do not believe that it could be published. Justiyaya 22:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear @Justiyaya Thank you for your feedback. I would like to clarify that I have not paid for any of the citations. The publications were either reached out to by me or approached me directly due to my work on building a temple, writing a book on astrology, and exploring wedding astrology. If these were paid articles, I would have provided distinct content and images to each. Additionally, there are references from reputable Tamil newspapers, which I’m unable to upload due to the platform's limitations.
I kindly request to do the needful and I appreciate your understanding and assistance.
Thanks. Astromoorthy (talk) 11:10, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Astromoorthy I mean... regardless of whether you've paid for it or not, they are clearly promotional in nature. I'm sorry, the draft has a extremely low chance at getting published that I just don't think it's worth your time to continue. Justiyaya 13:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Bis-Serjetà? (11:45, 15 July 2024)

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Hey, I have a question about tables.

On the article linked below, the table is wide enough that you need to scroll horizontally if you want to reach its end. I want to shorten it in order to fit it inside the webpage (no horizontal scrolling needed) and also to fit some images on the side for some reference.

Is it possible to shorten the width of a table? If so, how? Thanks in advance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Eastern_Orthodox_saints --Bis-Serjetà? (talk) 11:45, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Bis-Serjetà?, good question! I'm not exactly good with tables (I think I've touched it one or twice in my Wiki editing career)... I've asked for you on the help desk and they'd definitely know the answer. Justiyaya 05:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from WASIMULKARIMNILOY (04:17, 16 July 2024)

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How can i add my biography on wikipedia ? --WASIMULKARIMNILOY (talk) 04:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WASIMULKARIMNILOY, writing an autobiography is strongly discouraged and it would most likely be fruitless. If you'd like to contribute to Wikipedia, try out some tasks listed on the task center first! Justiyaya 05:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Merqalicious (01:25, 13 August 2024)

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Hello,

How can I create a page for my soccer team? --Merqalicious (talk) 01:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Merqalicious, that's not usually a good idea. In short, if your soccer team should get an article, someone (a wikipedia editor) would likely write an article for it. Writing about an article something you have a conflict of interest with is usually discouraged. For the policies surrounding it, check out WP:N and WP:COI. Justiyaya 07:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Justiyaya,

I am really interested in learning more about Wikipedia! I really like your talents and my main goal is reverting vandalism and joining NPP! ScribblingScribe - TALK 17:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello ScribblingScribe, Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism is a really good way to get started reverting vandalism. NPP is a bit too early for you, maybe after some work in reverting and some article creation. I'm not as active on Wiki at the moment unfortunately and adoption is usually for those with a bit more time spent here. However, I'll be happy to guide you and answer any questions that may come up if you want to text me on discord or through a thread here if that's what you prefer. Justiyaya 21:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay thanks! ScribblingScribe - TALK 22:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from G. Plason Zuerkanah Plakar (19:33, 5 September 2024)

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Hi, nice to meet you. How do I create a citation for an article I am writing? --G. Plason Zuerkanah Plakar (talk) 19:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @G. Plason Zuerkanah Plakar, welcome to Wikipedia! Please see referencing for beginners for a quite clear and detailed guide to referencing. Justiyaya 14:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Sikandar khattak on Help:Introduction to editing with VisualEditor/1 (21:44, 5 September 2024)

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I have a personal information --Sikandar khattak (talk) 21:44, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sikandar khattak, I have removed the sections you've posted below because I really don't understand what you are talking about, sorry. If you have personal information, I would not advise putting it on Wikipedia as this is a publicly accessible page. I would recommend emailing me with additional details so I can tell you where to go or using the "Help!" button on the top of this page to navigate to someplace that may be more of use. Justiyaya 14:58, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from DejaVu809 (05:10, 6 September 2024)

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Hi there,

I just submitted this Draft page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:DRAFT_-_Climate_Active

I'd like to remove the "DRAFT - " from the name, how can I do this? I can't seem to find the "move" button as the guides suggest.

Thank you --DejaVu809 (talk) 05:11, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @DejaVu809, it appears that someone already moved the page for you, thanks for messaging me. I've also seen that the draft was already declined, and I'll try to provide a bit more insight into why it was. The biggest issue in the article is notability, specifically, an article needs to be based off reliable sources that are secondary and independent to the subject. Adding a few newspapers covering the subject in detail, books, articles, magazines or even TV programs, could prove notability, our inclusion criteria for subjects. If sources like these do not exist but the subject is mentioned in reliable secondary and independent sources, it may be useful to send the content to an existing article, like Climate change in Australia#Policies and legislation. Justiyaya 14:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, am Ebenezer Akrasi, I want to become a blogger and also work on social media --Ebenezer Akrasi (talk) 11:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Bis-Serjetà? (20:10, 21 September 2024)

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Greetings mentor,

This may be a rather simple question, but how do I archive a source?

Thanks and God bless. Bis-Serjetà? (talk) 20:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bis-Serjetà? Great question! Not a simple one as there are plenty of ways to do it. If you'd like to archive one single source, using the Archive URL (linking to something like Internet Archive) alongside the Archive date field after clicking on a citation would get you there. If you want to do all sources on a single page, or just want something automated to do it for you, I found the internet archive bot to be helpful. Justiyaya 01:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Kevin9217 regarding new article creation

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Hello @Justiyaya,

Hope this message finds you well. Is it possible you can take a look and review a new article I created? The article is regarding Emerson Foote. Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

Best, Kevin9217 (talk) 06:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kevin, thanks for the message, it's been a while. The article is looking really good right now! I went ahead and marked it as patrolled. There might be some interesting sources for you at google news archive to expand it just a tad bit more if you choose to. The article is quite extensive as it is and looks quite good. Feel free to message back whenever with more questions or things like these :D Justiyaya 07:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Justiyaya,
It has indeed been a while. Thanks for reviewing the article! I will definitely message you with any further questions. Thanks as always :D
Best, Kevin9217 (talk) 07:11, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Bis-Serjetà? (16:32, 22 September 2024)

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Hello again mentor,

Sorry to bother you again, but how do I create an explanatory note (the footnote containing a letter which isn't a reference)?

Thanks for answering my previous question and God bless. --𝔅𝔦𝔰-𝔖𝔢𝔯𝔧𝔢𝔱𝔞? 16:32, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Bis-Serjetà?, try using Template:Efn alongside Template:Notelist at the end of the page. Message me back if you have more questions! Justiyaya 01:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you change my username to kyaasi? --Fsupolitico (talk) 14:36, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Fsupolitico, Wikipedia:Changing username provides a good amount of information on how to do so. Justiyaya 23:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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How do I add a photo that I took of Karla Faye Tucker being led into the Texas Death House when I was a photographer for the state of Texas? --Oldsclphoto13 (talk) 14:12, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Oldsclphoto13, welcome to Wikipedia! You could upload it via Commons:Special:UploadWizard and I'd do the rest for you. Justiyaya 14:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I messed up really bad I got rid of the graph please help if you can put it back. --Go SMU! (talk) 01:06, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Go SMU! Sorry! Forgot to respond. Someone appears to have reverted to a prior version an hour after you sent me the message :D If you'd like me to restore your version and fix it, could you describe what you were trying to do and a source to go along with it? Justiyaya 07:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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How do i get started --Kennethgarfinmori (talk) 07:58, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Kennethgarfinmori, welcome to Wikipedia! Help:Introduction is a good place to go. The WP:Task Center is a good place to find something to do :D ask me if you need additional help! Justiyaya 11:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from WindhorseTrust (14:10, 21 October 2024)

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Hi there I have not edited a Wikipedia page before and would welcome some help so I don't mess anything up.

I work for the Windhorse Trust, we own Abbey House in Cambridge (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abbey_House,_Cambridge&_welcomesurveytoken=d7gfb2rokrc1m5ij0d0reirjmdra0gpr&source=welcomesurvey-originalcontext). We have a duty of care towards our tenants who live there.

The Abbey House Wikipedia page contains several photos of Abbey House uploaded by an a 3rd party (cmglee) who we have no relationship with.

Some of the tenants are unhappy about some of the photos of the property on the Wikipedia page for safety and security reasons and would like them removed from the page.

How would I go about this?

Thanks John --WindhorseTrust (talk) 14:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi WindhorseTrust, this is complicated. The image was uploaded by Cmglee, who took the photos themselves. I don't see a copyright/legal reason why we would be required to remove it and I don't think there is any policy surrounding the requested removal of interior images. I wouldn't count on it being done but you could email info-en-q@wikimedia.org, which is from what I've gathered the correct way to go about requesting a change in an article that you are involved with. Do not edit the article yourself as you are related to the subject.
On another note, if you would like to continue working under the same account, please request a change of username. Wikipedia does not allow accounts that hold the name of a group as each account could only belong to a single person by policy. Additionally, review the paid editing policy if you are going to continue working on subjects where you are professionally related – note that you must disclose a conflict of interest on your user page (something like I am being paid by ___ for my contributions on ___ would suffice). Justiyaya 14:48, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Justiyaya
Many thanks for your full response - very helpful
Best wishes
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One design concept aimed to increase constructive activation

Constructive activation experimentation

After showcasing early design ideas at Wikimania, we conducted user testing of design prototypes. We now aim to engage communities in further discussions and plan to run a targeted experiment, presenting a structured task within the reading view to logged-in new account holders with zero edits.

Community Configuration

This Community Configuration extension was developed to help communities customize wiki features to meet their unique needs. The Growth team is now helping other Wikimedia Foundation teams make their products configurable:

  • The Moderation Tools team now provides Community Configuration for Automoderator. (T365046)
  • Certain Babel extension settings will be configurable soon. (T328171)

Future work

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As part of the Growth team annual plan, we will continue to investigate ways to increase constructive activation on mobile, while also working with Data Products to move forward A/B testing functionality via the Metrics Platform.

Community events

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  • Growth team members presented Community Configuration: Shaping On-Wiki Functionality Together at Wikimania (slides). The session recording is available to watch on YouTube. This session provided an update on the Community Configuration project and introduced details about the upcoming features that communities will soon be able to configure. Representatives from the Moderator Tools, Editing, Web, and Campaigns teams shared their plans for utilizing Community Configuration in the future. Following these presentations, the WMF Growth team's Benoît Evellin and Martin Urbanec answered audience questions.
  • Habib Mhenni gave a presentation of how mentorship works at WikiIndaba 2024. The recording is available.

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Question from NormanHouseFacedAngles (18:16, 22 October 2024)

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Do you understand that I am --NormanHouseFacedAngles (talk) 18:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from HatoriHanzo'sghost (07:44, 23 October 2024)

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Hi, I would like to change name of sandbox (new name: Thomas Rönning), and publish this article on Wikipedia. I find it difficult to understand how to convert my personal sandbox into an article on Wikipedia, and how to rename. --HatoriHanzo'sghost (talk) 07:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @HatoriHanzo'sghost, apologies, but we really discourage editors writing autobiographies. I can't think of an instance where anyone has successfully done that. It won't be a good use of your time and I think its best to spend your time doing something else. Justiyaya 10:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).

Administrator changes

readded
removed

CheckUser changes

removed Maxim

Oversighter changes

removed Maxim

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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Adoption

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Hello! I was wondering if you'd like to adopt me as an editor, so I can learn more about how to contribute. I've already done some edits, mainly minor formatting/capitalization fixes, reverting vandalism, and more recently fixing bare URLs and broken citations. I don't have a Discord account, but you can find me on Libera.Chat. WaterQuark (talk) 16:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi WaterQuark, I'll be happy to help you with anything. I don't have IRC but will try setting one up :D (should've done it a while ago probably) Justiyaya 04:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WaterQuark I've gotten IRC set up with the same username on Libera Chat. I am quite new to this, could you send me a message there so I could message you back? Justiyaya 16:03, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I sent you a memo, which is a type of message that can be sent to offline users and will be shown the next time they log on. If you want to, you can enable receiving memos as emails with /msg NickServ set emailmemos on.
Unrelated question: should I use |first=John 1, Jane 2 |last=Doe 1, Doe 2 or |first=John |last=Doe |first2=Jane |last2=Doe in citations with multiple authors? I personally think the latter format looks cleaner. WaterQuark (talk) 21:18, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yup you are right that the second is what you should use Justiyaya 02:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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