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Tower Bridge under construction, 1892

... that after supervising construction of London's Tower Bridge in the 1890s, engineer Edward Cruttwell was retained as consulting engineer to the bridge until his death in 1933?

Source: Cruttwell "... did, however, keep the position of Consulting Engineer to Tower Bridge until his death in 1933." "About Edward Cruttwell". Heritage - Tower Bridge. Retrieved 2024-08-27.

ALT1: ... that after supervising construction of London's Tower Bridge in the 1890s, engineer Edward Cruttwell produced a prize-winning design for Sydney Harbour Bridge in 1901?

Source: "In 1901, he won the first prize of £1,000 for the best design for what would ultimately be called Sydney Harbour Bridge, although his design was not proceeded with for financial, design and political reasons." "About Edward Cruttwell". Heritage - Tower Bridge. Retrieved 2024-08-27.

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Created by Paul W (talk) and PSCMol (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

Paul W (talk) 11:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Paul W, always good to see new civil engineering content and one brought through from WP:AFC. I'll take a look at this one. Article was moved to Mainspace on 27 August and exceeds minimum length; Sourcing looks to be generally OK for the content cited. I sometimes wonder about some articles on Grace's Guide but the one's cited here seem fairly open on where the content comes from (the site was discussed at WP:RSN in 2019 and I am not aware of any more recent discussions). However RailScot was deemed "generally unreliable" in 2022, is there an alternative you can replace it with? I'll complete the rest of the review once this is addressed, appreciate it is only one citation - Dumelow (talk) 10:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dumelow. I have replaced the RailScot reference (it was one added by the article's creator, a relatively new editor); I found a book citation via the ICE archive at Heriot-Watt. Best wishes - Paul W (talk) 12:01, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Paul W. You'll need a US public domain tag for the image if you want to use it on the main page. Additionally I think some of the wording is a bit close to the Tower Bridge source. I can give some examples, if needed, but the Earwig tool summarises it well. I am not too worried about what Earwig flags elsewhere, eg. from Grace's Guide which looks to mostly be proper nouns and the like - Dumelow (talk) 12:56, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again, Dumelow. I worked on reducing the paraphrasing early in the article's development, and have now undertaken another batch of edits, addressing both the Tower Bridge source and the Grace's profile. Not sure how I fix the US image tag issue. An alternative might be to use the portrait of Cruttwell which User:PSCMol added to the site after I did the DYK nomination (but I think the Tower Bridge photo is a stronger hook - or maybe this painting?). Paul W (talk) 13:58, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me Paul W. Both hooks are mentioned in the article and check out to source cited. There's a bit of a nuance about his position originally being resident engineer before consulting engineer but I don't think explanation would fit into the hook well. Approving without image for now. Both of the Tower Bridge images suggested would need a US PD tag from the list at Commons:Copyright_tags/Country-specific_tags#United_States_of_America. Not sure which one works best but from the age of the images one should be appropriate. File:191? - Edward Cruttwell.jpg is not correctly licensed, it is not the original work of the uploader (unless they are 130-odd years old). A QPQ has been carried out - Dumelow (talk) 20:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]