Talk:Actinote zikani/GA1

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Nominator: Sir MemeGod (talk · contribs) 13:01, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Jens Lallensack (talk · contribs) 02:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great to see this here! And an interesting coincident, as I just nominated another critically endangered species (the cherry-throated tanager) from the Atlantic Forest! Will review shortly. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 02:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Generally speaking, the lead should be a summary of the article that is easy to understand for non-experts, and we should try to keep it as simple as possible.
I suggest to remove "the subfamily Heliconiinae and the genus Actinote" and just mention the family, to make it more concise. (the genus is redundant because it is part of the species name anyways).
We don't need references in the lead (because all information is supposed to be repeated in the main text anyways); would make it appear less cluttered.
No need to link Brazil, but please link endemic.
Its typical habitat is – Why "typical"? Does that mean it occurs outside the Atlantic Forest, too?
I think the second paragraph should start with the basics (it was declared "critically endangered" by both the IUZN, which makes the official global red list, and on the national red list of Brasil (which is a regional red list). Then, point out that 100-species list.
State of Sao Paulo – you should link to the state article (São Paulo (state)), not the city.

Taxonomy

Between 1941 and 1942, the naturalist Romualdo Ferreira d'Almeida collected around ten specimens of a species of the genus Actinote at the Boracéia biological station – This is not possible, since the biological station was only established in 1954.
and attributed the specimens to Actinote zikani whose characteristics he defined in 1951 – maybe instead write "and described them as a new species, Actinote zikani, in 1951"?

Description

This needs some additions; most importantly size, but also the diagnostic features (what distinguishes this species from related species), and how does the caterpillar and pupa look like. Also, differences (if any) between males and females.

Biology

I think source 22 is not fully correctly represented in the text. I strongly doubt that "they attack any insect", and you should provide the background/reason why they attack. I think it is necessary to read the source again and rework the section.
male-dominted – should that be "male-dominated"?

Habitat and Distribution

by its inventor – no, species are not being invented.

Disappearance and rediscovery

Therefore considered extinct – who considered it extinct? The IUZN?

The article still needs some significant work to reach GA level, but it's certainly doable. I will need to do a second read and another round of comments after the above is addressed; I haven't checked source integrity yet. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 02:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, that doesn’t seem that hard. A little note, I will be away at something until Monday (2 days from now) and won’t respond to any messages in that time, but can fix up the article then :) Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 12:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I will be away from Tuesday, too, so it could take me some days to do the second go-through. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 12:09, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've fixed up the lede, removed the references, removed the Bio station mention, linked state instead of city, iventor > describer, dominted > dominated, only thing I need to do is Biology and Disappearance and rediscovery. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 12:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jens Lallensack: I am back, see above comment as to what I've done. Also fixed up some peacockery issues highlighted in the DYK Nomination. Duplicate citations were also cleaned up. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 12:51, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jens Lallensack and Sir MemeGod: Where are we sitting with this, I have paused my DYK nomination review while the GA is going, but it looks like nothing has happened in about a week or more.--16:14, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a bit confused as well, Jens picked up the review and then left. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 16:19, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I told you above that I am travelling and can check only intermittently. But I see that you did not address all comments above yet anyways (for example, the expansion of the description section), so there is not much for me to do at the moment, too. I have to wait for that new content to include it in my second round of review. Jens Lallensack (talk) 18:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies if what I said came off as rude, I just wasn't having a good day and just saw the bad in the situation. Even if it is delayed (which I now know is normal), thank you for taking the time to review the article. :) Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 12:36, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, all good :) Looks like the article cited predatory journals (which are not considered to be reliable sources here), and since those sources have just been removed, the affected text has to be supported by other sources or removed in order to reach GA. Jens Lallensack (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]