Brittletheories

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sirkkalintu

See Locustellidae at Avian Taxonomy in Flux and Locustellidae on Wikipedia.Wikipedia . They don't entirely agree with your assignment of genera and species. What source have you used? DCDuring (talk) 01:49, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@DCDuring I simply imported the names over from the Finnish Wikipedia for the redlinks. In retrospect, that was not the brightest idea. Should we comb through it or purge it from main and move it to a sandbox page? brittletheories (talk) 09:01, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

It's not so bad. Taxonomic name entries need to be checked and updated no matter what the source.

Relatedly, all but the last of your bird pages appears in Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls. Evidently the last page is short enough not to be in that category as is your fish page. The problems is that you have 1,000 uses of {{taxlink}} and that template uses the "ifexist" function. It would be useful to get each page below the "too many" number, probably just by splitting them. DCDuring (talk) 23:17, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

The "too many" number is more than 100. DCDuring (talk) 23:23, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I wasted time running experiments on your bird user pages. The too-many number is either 500 or 501. So splitting the pages in half would work. And you could always remove one or more of the taxlink uses. I knew that "ifexist" was a problem, but I didn't know about the limit. So, thanks for the learning opportunity. DCDuring (talk) 23:40, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

idiografia

The {{cat}} template use here is creating a malformed category name, can you fix it? Acolyte of Ice (talk) 11:32, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Done. brittletheories (talk) 13:47, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Template:fi-dial

I don't know if you spotted this yet, but I thought you might be interested in this. I created a new template for handling Finnish dialectal terms with distribution information. I have placed some examples in loppea (example of a distribution and nothing else) and ilta (dialectal synonyms with a map). — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 19:51, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

@Surjection That is very interesting. I have been toying with the same idea but didn't know how to put it together. brittletheories (talk) 21:08, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Looking at it now, is there a way to mirror the map as a thumbnail on the article? I think it would greatly improve readability. brittletheories (talk) 21:19, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you referring to how it is on loppea or how it is on ilta/ehtoo? — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 21:25, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

@Surjection Ah, that's right. I somehow glossed over the verb. I think the examples with the longer format, too, would benefit from having the map on the article page, as with loppea. Anyways, I think it looks greats. How did you import the data from SMS? brittletheories (talk) 21:29, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

There are technical reasons to not have the map in any entry - it's two megabytes of data downloaded for an entry, which is not great, and its complex SVG probably taxes resources too. This becomes even worse with all the elements on top of it. However, for entries like loppea, there is no simple solution other than moving that data too into modules, which is not a great solution. Maps like ilta also benefit from having it visible at a larger size.

I recently added some helpers for importing from SMS. You can now simply copy the list of parishes (comma separated; available as "Pitäjät aakkosjärjestyksessä" in SMS) and supply it into helper.add_word_for (Module:fi-dialects/data/word/ilta has a rough example). It is imperative that the appropriate reference is added (with export.source when it comes to synonym data, with |ref= in distribution like in loppea), since that is necessary given the SMS license. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 21:44, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

I'll add an example of the new syntax in Module:fi-dialects/data/word/huivi. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 21:52, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

I see. I tried the simpler format out at aa'a. brittletheories (talk) 22:08, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Radenbond / radenbond

Hi! I hope I can give you this feedback to your edits: 1) "Pre-war" is not a tag, plus it's vague; the usage period was already well defined by another template. 2) Your edit seemed to suggest that before WW2 Radenbond / radenbond was the dominant term, replaced by Sovjetunie after WW2, which is not the case. 3) While the term is logically historical because the USSR ceased to exist, the term is also inherently dated because most Dutch speakers today will probably not understand it, which is not the case with Sovjetunie. I'm wondering why you decided to edit this existing lemma in a language that you apparently do not speak. Appolodorus1 (talk) 14:10, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

mulkkunen

Probably not a good idea. The word this is marked as a synonym of gets zero ghits outside of VKS. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 18:01, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

@Surjection I agree, nearly impossible to attest. I came across it by accident and thought it was entertaining that the editors of VKS would include it without a definition or a single example, linking to an entry that won't be created for years.

I wonder what it even means. Perhaps it's an obsolete insult, or maybe a disease. brittletheories (talk) 18:27, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Actually, they also have an entry for "mulkkutauti" (syn. "suoliculli") with the sense of hernia. That must be it. Actually, tyrä, too, was originally penile. I guess the two just look alike. Still, this term is unattestable. Strange that Kotus should include it. brittletheories (talk) 18:32, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Specialist Kotus dictionaries like VKS and SMS don't have the same CFI as we do. They document everything they think is worthy, which often includes hapax legomena. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 18:39, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

luisti

[1] gets a high number of results. Anecdotal evidence should be held as of secondary importance. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 14:50, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

An inspection of the sources shows that "luisti" is used by nontrombonists writing for nontrombonists. Searching for "pasuuna slide", on the other hand, gets hits from professional forums and music stores. To reflect this, I labeled one as jargon and the other as formal. brittletheories (talk) 16:47, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Acanthis flammea

Anthus pratensis

You placed {{rfc}} in these. Why? DCDuring (talk) 19:17, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

It was in 2022. I just don't remember. Looking back at it, the page reads more like a Wikidata item than a dictionary article, but I guess that's the way we want taxonomy. brittletheories (talk) 13:15, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I know what you mean. I am getting a bit more selective in what appears. I would be even more selective if we had a way of addressing the weaknesses of the way that WP displays such links (imported from WikiData) at the bottom of its taxonomic-name-type entries. Almost all taxonomic databases have some distinctive content or search design that distinguishes them from the others, just as we offer etymology, gender info, and connection with vernacular names, for the small number of terms we have. DCDuring (talk) 14:04, 1 March 2024 (UTC)