SdkbBot

June 2021

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Ruuben Kaalep, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Your recent edit to Ruuben Kaalep did not reflect Wikipedia's neutral tone. Vesuvio14 (talk) 18:11, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

@Vesuvio14: Did you mean to warn a different editor? The edit SdkbBot made to the page was this, which looks fine to me. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:47, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

@Sdkb: Very sorry, I must have clicked on the wrong editor. Apologies for the confusion! Vesuvio14 (talk) 20:50, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Requests

Is there a way to ask this bot to patrol a specific page? I know that functionality exists for some bots, but didn't see a link for this one. Thanks! Swimmer33 (talk) 17:26, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Swimmer! There's no way to ask the bot for that, but if you do a ctrl+f search for " <ref", you can find all the instances of extra spaces on a given page. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:49, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I was more hoping to get the bot to replace spaces with "& nbsp;". I noticed it did that replacement on 2021 WNBA season and I was hoping to get it to do the same for previous season pages. Swimmer33 (talk) 18:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Bot activity

Just for clarity's sake, would you mind modifying your edit summary to a) point to your BRFA, and b) make it a bit more obvious the main task you're doing is fixing REFPUNCT errors? As the summary currently reads, the bot is a genfix bot. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 11:58, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

I'll change it to Removed erroneous space and general fixes (task 1). Does that help? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:24, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. Primefac (talk) 06:54, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

I hate you, Bot. There’s no Wikipedia policy or not speaking badly about bots 😀Bagofscrews (talk) 04:05, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Cresaps War cause

In this description of the cause of Cresaps war you reference property.

There is a plaque in Cumberland WV at the site of the Yellow Creek massacre referencing that event as the cause of the Cresaps War.

Ive never written a correction here but I think the info you have on this topic is in correct. 98.219.189.88 (talk) 04:24, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello! Are you referencing this edit by SdkbBot? It's an automated account operated by me, but I don't have particular expertise on that war. If you'd like to make an edit to that article, I'd recommend posting at the Teahouse or the military history project talk page and being clear about what you are seeking. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 04:46, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Moving categories outside of comments

@Sdkb In Special:diff/1063444797, the bot should not be moving categories from inside commented-out sections to outside. The category was added as a comment, as it is a category that are supposed to be automatically added by the mediawiki software, and should never be used manually. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:44, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ahecht! That edit is definitely not what we want. Worse, the error is coming from the WP:GENFIX set, so anyone using AWB is going to be prompted to make it by default as a purportedly uncontroversial fix. I'm not sure precisely which GENFIX task is causing the issue, but I'll raise this at WT:GENFIX so that someone with the relevant knowledge can address it. Thanks for flagging it! Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:49, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Discussion started here. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:55, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

One but not the other or why one country is better linked than another

Just curious as to why it removed the United Kingdom link but left the United States line. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 17:38, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@CambridgeBayWeather, in that sentence (One was a British group of four young men and the other was a group of four young Americans., I'd say that both links are pretty clearly overlinks to me. But the bot only recognizes links of the form "was a [[Country|Demonym]]", so it only removed the UK link. I think you made the right call to remove the U.S. one as well. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:52, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Nationality vs. ethnicity for Thailand

Header added. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:55, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

I didn't see the BRFA or earlier discussions, but I imagine a possible negative side effect in the case of Thailand being that people may re-add links piped to Thai people in its place, which would be incorrect as that article discusses the specific ethnicity rather than the nationality, which is what is usually meant when people are identified as Thai. (I had previously changed hundreds of these to point to Thailand.) Not sure if it'll be a good idea to leave a hidden comment saying not to... I'll try to watch out for this happening. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:22, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing that up, Paul_012. There are three ways we could handle this:

1. I could add a hidden comment "refers to nationality, not ethnicity" whenever the bot delinks Thailand.
2. We could decide that, even though it's not best practice to use wikilinks as disambiguation (for accessibility and other reasons), it's better than only a hidden comment, and I'll have the bot no longer change Thailand pages.
3. We could decide that it's a rare enough issue that the hidden comment isn't really necessary and it's a net plus to delink and have the bot carry on.

Let me know which you'd prefer. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:55, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps you could suspend the task for Thailand for a few weeks, and I'll check to see whether any links were introduced during the period? If none were, it would point to this not being a significant issue and the bot could continue with option 3. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:28, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Looking through the history, the bot had already finished the Thailand pages by the time you commented here (the contributions are here, here, and go back to Ramayana here, about 1,300 pages total). From other countries, I'd expect that if we waited a week or so, there'd probably be about 3 new pages that'd crop up with the issue. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:38, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Hatnote order

I'm wondering whether this edit is correct. WP:HNP and MOS:ORDER say hatnotes go above protection tags. That also seems logical, as we group the "is this the article you wanted" stuff above details of the article itself. What does your botherder think? Certes (talk) 11:41, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Certes! That edit came from the WP:GENFIX set, so I'd raise the question at WT:GENFIX. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:26, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

F.C.

Hiya I just reverted this bot edit , because it incorrectly changed Whitehawk F.C.. to Whitehawk F.C. at the end of a sentence. Mujinga (talk) 08:32, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Mujinga: That edit looks to me like the bot operating properly within its approved scope, conforming with MOS:CONSECUTIVE. Best, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 16:54, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

wow that's pretty wild, thanks for letting me know! Mujinga (talk) 16:03, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Suggested edits to the Gulf States Toyota Distributors page

Hi SdkbBot,

I hope you are doing well. Previously you had helped review and update suggestions on the Gulf States Toyota Distributors wiki page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_States_Toyota_Distributors

I would love your help to clean this page to focus on Gulf States Toyota instead of Freidkin Group. The article is currently confusing because the current version focuses on Friedkin Group and is irrelevant.

Can you please review my suggestions to update the page with the goal of making it focus more on Gulf States Toyota, the intended topic of the page?

I have added additional suggested edits to the Gulf States Toyota Distributors Talk page and would kindly request your help in reviewing those recommended updates. Thank you for your time and consideration! --SSuggests (talk) 04:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

@SSuggests, SdkbBot is an automated editing account; I am its operator, but I had no hand in updating that page. If you'd like help with it, you can ask at the Teahouse, but have specific questions, as other editors won't just overhaul an article for you. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 04:14, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Source Code or AWB source

What source does this bot use to make a list, and what regex does this bot use? Can you tell me? Didn't ping you Sdkb, since you might be watching this page. Itcouldbepossible^Talk 04:44, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Itcouldbepossible! It uses AWB with the code described here. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 05:54, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Unrealistic Myanmar squad for the 2021 Southeast Asian Games

For the 2021 Southeast Asian Games happening in Hanoi, Myanmar's squad must be added in their under-23 team instead of their under-20 team. There are also a significantly high amount of incorrect players for the Southeast Asian Games, as players like Lwin Moe Aung and Htet Phyo Wai have not been added. The squad also included 3 overage players. If this wasn't your edit, please let me know on my talk page. Just to let you know, the final squad has now been added to the under-23 team. Talk 11:38, 20 May 2022 (MMT).

IQIYI vandalism edit

WARNING! Please do not add information without citing sources as you did with the company's earning of 2021. Hypersonic man 11 (talk) 13:06, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

@Hypersonic man 11 See reply at my talk by Elli; your warning is mistargeted and your duplicate notices are a fork. Best, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:38, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

How to remove a tag

Hello,

SdkbBot on June 8, 2022 tagged an article - Bernice Vere with

. What does this mean?

I have sourced this bio with references from: Ancestry.com; Newspapers.com; American Film Institute catalog; various Australian published media; 3 books; Library of Congress; Billboard; Variety; Motion Picture News; The Broadway Database and the Silent Era Website. I have listed 91 solid verifiable references for this article. Please advised what I have missed and what I need to do to remove this tag.

Thank you Michael Jannetta (talk) 21:40, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

This wasn't an edit by SdkbBot; I'll reply on the article's talk page. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:03, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Bot behavior that it doesn't seem to have been approved for?

Hello Sdkb! I noticed that your bot recently made an edit that it does not seem to have been approved for from what I can find. I'm referring to this edit in which it did remove erroneous spaces as the task says, however it also added ref names to references that appear to only be used once, and changed {{cn}} to {{citation needed}} (which I guess that last one might fall under WP:GENFIX but I don't see why that's something that needs to be done if the template still works either way). If you can explain why the bot made these edits feel free. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:40, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Blaze Wolf! Those edits are indeed WP:GENFIX ones. Please ask about those at the GENFIX talk page if you're curious; I don't have any particular expertise on them. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:42, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Ah alrgiht. I knew the CN to Citation Needed was most likely GENFIX but I didn't see anything at GENFIX about adding refnames to references only used one. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:43, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Namespace error

I forgot to filter out non-article namespaces in my recent run of Task 3, so the bot fixed some typos on talk pages etc. Apologies to anyone whose watchlist was affected; I've corrected the error, so it should be staying within its approved domain now. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:46, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I came here to ask about the same thing; I've just mass-rollbacked those changes. I found it at Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/October 2012. Graham87 00:48, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for noting this and to Graham87 for reverting the edits. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 07:34, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Done with navbox documentation additions?

Hey there. Is the bot that is updating navboxes to use {{navbox documentation}} done with its work, or is it just paused? I am finding templates like {{Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan}} that still need updating. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:59, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Jonesey95! I completed the initial run of about 40k pages, but I'm planning to try tweaking the query to pick up more. The example above looks like it was missed because it lacked the closing noinclude tag. Doing the tweaking is on my to-do list, but I want to approach it cautiously to avoid picking up false positives (the main risk group being navboxes that have documentation but just don't use the {{Documentation}} template, e.g. here). Help tweaking the initial query from the BRFA would be welcome if you or anyone else is a fan of RegEx query composing. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:12, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Here's an ugly search that shows 3,743 template pages. Many of them seem to take the form that {{Electoral districts of Lower Saxony}} takes: The doc template contains |content= followed by {{collapsible option}} and one or more categories. If your replacement script is sufficiently careful, you should be able to feed that batch of templates to the script and have it update only the ones that take that form. Other templates with "See also" sections and other stuff should be ignored. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:35, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Here's another search that returns 1,433 pages. Again, many of them contain just {{collapsible option}} and one or more categories. It looks like you got the vast majority of the potential templates, since I'm only finding 5,000 after your run of 40,000. You might be able to get another 2,000 or 3,000 out of those two batches. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:40, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't know why this one might have been missed by the bot. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

That one wasn't picked up since it wasn't in a navbox category. Apologies for the delay in getting to these stragglers — it's on my to-do list, but off-wiki busyness has limited my available editing time recently. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:30, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

No need to apologize. A report of uncategorized templates is where I am finding these, so that makes sense. I live among edge cases, so I never have a good sense of how widespread a problem really is. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:51, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Barbara Knudson

Knudson also appeared on the Burns & Allen Show as Lola the waitress. 2806:2F0:1001:DA07:9975:538C:408F:496D (talk) 19:02, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Spaces sometimes deliberately used before refs in tables

FYI, in addition to doing a lot of great work, the bot may sometimes break deliberate measures for making tables narrower. I don't remember where I picked this trick up from, but I've used spaces before refs for this purpose myself in Comparison of multi-paradigm programming languages and List of Rajasthan Royals cricketers. Footnote wrap-away isn't an issue within the confines of small table cells, but does give some additional width reduction (most significantly with many narrow columns that have just a few letters/numbers in them). I've now put {{wbr}} in front of refs instead of using spaces, hopefully bots won't touch that. (It's also better than using spaces because this way it looks no different from the standard adjoined way when wrapping isn't needed. In this sense the bot did a good thing to make me think this over.)

BTW, for some reason the bot didn't actually catch all pre-ref spaces on these two pages, so there may be some sort of a general oversight with the patterns it's using. Gamapamani (talk) 03:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

That's an interesting niche use case, Gamapamani; thanks for pointing it out! Yes, the appropriate measure there is to use {{wbr}}, which the bot will not interfere with. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 21:46, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

bsn --> better source needed

This wikicode tag change from abbreviated to expanded verbosity is unnecessary and will lead to a large accumulation of tag fat across the thousands of articles it has been/will be applied to. The abbreviated method has been acceptable for quite some times, and Template:bsnis a valid redirect for the template Template:Better_source_needed per WP:NOTBROKEN. Please consider disabling this and reverting those changes via a new task. Thanks. --Picard's Facepalm • ^{Made It So} _Engage! • 21:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

That change is part of the WP:GENFIX set, not something specific to this bot. See the notice at the top of this page. Cheers, Sdkb ^talk 23:33, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

I've reviewed both WP:GENFIX and Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/General_fixes and that issue and change is not listed, nor was it discussed. Please consider disabling this on the bot and reverting those changes en-masse via a new task. Thanks. --Picard's Facepalm • ^{Made It So} _Engage! • 15:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

The applicable fix in GENFIX is TemplateRedirects, where {{bsn}} is listed on the subpage. If you want to propose it be removed, you would need to do so there; it is nothing my bot has individual control over. Personally, I would oppose the removal, given that even many experienced editors do not know what "bsn" means. Sdkb ^talk 15:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

And I would oppose that opposition as "bsn" is as in common use and understanding as "cn" or any other number of shorthand tags - some of which are quite unnecessarily added to that project. These were all created long ago for good reason. I have re-reviewed GENFIX and the subpage pointed me to - and will have appropriate discussion there. Thanks for the more precise reference. --Picard's Facepalm • ^{Made It So} _Engage! • 16:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

your bot is really cool. and for a simple fix.. a barnstar

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		nice work .. your bot is great:SdkbBot. 190.10.199.23 (talk) 08:33, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Sdkb ^talk 14:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

no problem.. :Thanks! for the :Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.10.199.23 (talk) 15:11, 9 October 2024 (UTC)