Talk:Spanish Navy

Ranking on strength

Is entirely subjective. However, by no stretch of imagination does the spanish navy rank above the PLAN or Indian Navy, whether in number of capital ships (and thereby strength), number of personnel or total tonnage. A provisional ranking would look like USN>> RuN=RN=MN(Fr) > JMSDF=IN=PLAN. GN, SpN, ROKN and MM(Italy) all come later. I'm deleting the part about rankings from the article. If someone wants to add something like that please put in some data to back it up instead of personal opinion. Madmonk11 (talk) 08:21, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

The spanish navy ( Armada Espanola ) is the 6th on the world... It's difficuly to make a ranking of navies but I believe the position of the spanish Armada would be someting between 5th and 7th place

I cannot find any support for the "6th biggest navy" claim. Even lists of top 10 navies don't have Spain...sadly. AThousandYoung (talk)

What does armada mean in English? Can anyone tell me?

I believe the Armada is in 5th place but wikipedia isnt the place to debate naval power. It doesnt equal Italys navy though which is on par with France and the UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.247.252 (talk) 22:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Armada means "armed". The official name of the Spanish Navy is "Armada Española" for tradition, but the correct translation is "Marina española". This name (Marina Española) was used for long time before "Armada Española". In spanish, "Navy" means "marina" not armada. You can see old pictures with this name (Marina) in the aircrafts of the Spanish Navy. Actually the aircraft of the Navies of Spain, Chile, Argentina, Colombia and others americans countries used the word "Armada".

Inside of the Spanish Armada is the Spanish Marine Corps, in spanish: "Infantería de Marina" (Navy Infantry). The word "armada" is used in others names: Fuerzas Armadas Españolas (Spanish armed forces) and as adjetive: Armed Police (policia armada); Armed assault (Asalto armado) etc..

Title in Spanish

The title should be in English - Spanish navy.--Shtove 20:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I did that change because other countries' navies articles do use their autochtonous names such as the Marina Militare. If I was in an error for the change, please revert it to the original name. Cheers, --Maurice27 22:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, it should be the English title. Maybe there's a different rule for this type of article. Ask an admin - it it's to be changed back, I think their help is needed anyway.--Shtove 14:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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What's in a name?

Does the Spanish Navy have a ship-naming system? I'm looking at this & makes me wonder. If anybody can say, an add there might not be a bad idea, either. TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 16:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Skirmish at WP

I deleted this:

"During the Civil War, about half of the Spanish Navy had remained loyal to the Republican government and the other half joined the rebellion of Franco's Nationalists. Government forces had more destroyers (All except one, them Mussolini sold 4 old destroyers to the Nationalist), but Franco had seized both newest heavy cruisers Canarias and Baleares, armed with eight 203 mm (8 in) guns each. The two navies had skirmished throughout the war without major losses."

and this

"The Battle of the Ebro ended disastrously for the Republicans later that year."

from here, because, while interesting, I don't think it's directly relevant to the subject. Maybe of value here, tho. TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 17:31 & 17:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Royal Navy?

As Spain is a kingdom, is not their naval forces also a Royal Navy like the UK?♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 06:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Spain is no longer a kingdom - like most Western countries they have some form of democracy, see this page. Also, the 'royal' in Royal Navy does not signify any particular governmental system - it is a holdover from when England had a monarchy. Andyo2000 (talk) 03:16, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

What's that nonsense? Spanish is a kingdom as much as the UK or Japan. Ever heard the term Constitutional Monarchy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.148.139.221 (talk) 13:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Spain is no longer a kingdom? You must be joking, in fact the official name of Spain is Kingdom of Spain.--79.151.207.191 (talk) 17:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

bad prose

The article starts out calling it the Spanish Navy but changes to Armada. If you do that, proper prose is to write Spanish Navy (Armada), but this is never done. Nitpicking, some may say but this is an encyclopediaBamler2 (talk) 06:15, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Lost in transition

Hi,
The first para under the "Habsburg..." heading contains the sentence "Until the early 17th century, the Pacific Ocean." which seems strangely incomplete.
I wouldn't know what is missing, but perhaps somebody does?
T 88.89.5.214 (talk) 09:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Caramba. It's still there. T 85.166.161.28 (talk) 13:57, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

The missing words "was dominated by the Spanish Navy" were deleted in this edit from January 7, 2011. Having detected an emerging consensus, I shall reinstate the words. Favonian (talk) 14:13, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, thx for the fix. Only 400 years, and Wikipedia gets it right :) T 85.166.161.28 (talk) 21:46, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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Identify submarine?

The submarine bears both Portuguese and Spanish flags.

Hello. Can anyone help identify this submarine please: Image 1, Image 2, Image 3. I'm trying to find details such as the type, and what navy it belongs to. It was spotted on the Tagus River near Ponte 25 de Abril in Lisbon, Portugal on 3 April 2019. I also have a video of it, but it shows pretty much the same detail visible in the photos. Thanks in advance! Rehman 07:58, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

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Spanish Navy is widely considered the most powerful maritime power of the 16th century

There has been some Edit Warring lately (partly my fault) on the subject, which is why I am proceeding to start this thread.

There is quite a consensus among academia that the Spanish Navy was the most powerful of the 16th Century (Not in vain is this century considered the Spanish Golden Age). After a very quick search:

1. Garrett Mattingly, The Armada (1959)

  - "The Spanish navy was undoubtedly the most powerful in the world at the time, with a global reach and resources that no other European state could match."
  - Pages: 50-70

2. Alfred Thayer Mahan, The Influence of Sea Power upon History, 1660-1783 (1890)

  - "During the sixteenth century, Spain's naval power was unrivaled. The Spanish navy's dominance over the Mediterranean and its formidable presence in the Atlantic ensured Spain's status as the leading world power of the age."
  - Pages: 20-40

3. Henry Kamen, Empire: How Spain Became a World Power, 1492-1763 (2003)

  - "In the sixteenth century, the Spanish navy was the most powerful in the world. It played a key role in the expansion and protection of Spain's overseas empire, projecting Spanish influence across the globe."
  - Pages: 60-90

4. J.H. Parry, The Spanish Seaborne Empire (1966)

  "Spain's naval strength in the sixteenth century was unmatched, allowing it to maintain control over its vast overseas empire and protect its interests across the world's oceans."
  - Pages: 90-110

5. Andrew Lambert, War at Sea in the Age of Sail, 1650-1850 (2000)

  - "In the sixteenth century, Spain's navy was the dominant force on the seas, with a capacity to project power that shaped the maritime dynamics of Europe and beyond."
  - Pages: 10-30

Combrils (talk) 17:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)