Talk:Publish or perish

Origin

The "Origin" paragraph is unnecessarily meticulous, not very useful, and essentially incorrect because the problem the Wikipedia article talks about and as we know it today arose in recent decades and has little if anything to do with the casual citations reported here. (See Google Trends and learn that, compared to 2003, the phrase has been used 20 times more in 2010 and 100 times more in 2022). --Majorbolz (talk) 14:32, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Untitled

I eliminated a few paragraphs in the "Advantages" section as these paragraphs only talked about further disadvantages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.147.57.6 (talk • contribs) 23:03, 9 February 2007

First citation

The first citation does not actually talk about what this article claims it says. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.7.255.105 (talk) 05:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree, so I removed it. For future reference, the citation was""St. Lawrence University Faculty Handbook" (PDF). pp. pp. 45-47. Retrieved 18 December 2007. {{cite web}}: |pages= has extra text (help)". -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 12:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

"In the 1990s, graduate students and untenured assistant professors in the humanities and social sciences may have experienced more pressure than academics in the sciences, but after 2000, the pressure spread into other disciplines and the phenomenon came to influence the advancement of tenured associate professors to the coveted full professor title in the United States."

This claim is completely unsubstantiated. I'm removing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.103.170.94 (talk) 00:30, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Impact Factor

I was thinking about adding some information about impact factors (IF) to the introduction paragraph. The impact factor of an academic journal is the yearly average amount of citations, and research published in journals with high impact factors is often deemed more important by academic institutions. Additionally, I was thinking about adding some information to the Disadvantages section about how the "publish or perish" culture affects women. Women publish less frequently than men in most fields, and when they do publish their work receives fewer citations, even when its published in journals with significantly high Impact Factors. . Somehuman (talk) 15:57, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

References

Publish or Perish: is this really US centric anymore?

Since 2010, this article has had that template note at the top saying this is very US-centric. I would argue that with recent revelations of cash rewards for papers in China and other countries, and the onslaught of pay-to-play journals show this is a worldwide phenomenon and that the way this article is written is actually quite worldly. Is anyone opposed to me removing this 7-year-old tag? --Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 20:30, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

I removed the template, for the reason cited above and because several other changes (removing US-centric subsections) had been made since the template was added. Article is no longer US-centric. ParticipantObserver (talk) 15:28, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Is Publish or perish (Q451845) a meme?

In the wikidata item Publish or perish (Q451845) there's data that says that this is a meme. Do you agree? How else can "Publish or perish" be defined? I read in the article that "Publish or perish" is a phrase. Would it be valid to add instance of with a value of

• phrase (Q187931) group of (one or more) words
• saying (Q3026787) short, usually meaningful phrase, such as a maxim, proverb, motto, or adage

Would that be proper? Anyway if this happens to be a meme please help in adding a reference to the item or if you can't please add one here and I'll add it myself. Thanks. Dbfyinginfo (talk) 23:55, 17 March 2019 (UTC)