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Revising Systematics and taxonomy

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I think Systematics and taxonomy section should be revised to Zygoptera, Anisoptera and Anisozygoptera as Dijkstra et al. restored this old classification and this is what now Wold Odonata List follows. Jee 06:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Jkadavoor: It's not clear to me what taxonomy is being followed for insects in general or Odonata in the specific. There seem to be two schools of thought for Odonata. The traditional Anisozygoptera is paraphyletic with respect to Anisoptera, which is why the change to Epiprocta was made, so as to have a monophyletic group containing the fossil species. The classification of Dykstra et al (2013, 2014) used in the World Odonata List only deals with extant species where Anisozygoptera only has two species in Epiophlebiidae which is the sister to Anisoptera. A redefined Anisozygoptera restricted to Epiophlebiidae would be monophyletic, but Dykstra et al (2013) don't say how the fossil species would be handled in their scheme. They either accept a paraphyletic taxon or would need additional suborders for extinct forms. If the article is to be changed to their scheme, the handling of the fossil species would need to be clarified. It would be useful to find some more recent studies to see if they accept the Dykstra et al (2013) classification or retain Epiprocta.   Jts1882 | talk  09:03, 31 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Cephalozygoptera debate

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@Hemiauchenia: as a note, while you're working though the phylogenies of Odonatoptera and Odonata, we will need coverage of the current dispute over suborder Cephalozygoptera with splitter and lumper positions addressed.--Kevmin § 19:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)Reply