Talk:Myrkviðr

Article scope

I want this article to cover the general concept of the "Mirkwood" of the Germanic and Slavic regions, as it was oriented before I started editing it, because the borders between the mythological, legendary and geographic references to the forest are very vague. Right now the article does not state clearly whether it covers only the word Myrkviðr and its direct derivatives, or the expanded use of the name, which covers other forms and languages. Myrkviðr clearly represents something deeper than just the Norse variations. Any scholary research pertinent to the forest(s) is desirable, and perhaps also references to the early (Cæsar, Tacitus, Pliny et al.) accounts of the dark and vast Germanic forests.

However, where does the line go between discussing an expanded concept of Myrkviðr, and discussing just... dark woods? Woods are dark, and I know of loads of woods and farms named something along the line of "darkwood", "blackforest" and so on in Norway. Is it really a big deal if some dense and dark forest is in fact called "Dark Forest", and is it possible to link this name with other appearances throughout Scandinavia and Europe? I need some second hand opinions to structure my own mind and the article scope. –Holt T•C 16:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I've checked my books but I can't find much more than what is said in Nordisk familjebok[1].--Berig (talk) 18:15, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Murk

Frysian language is using the word Murk for 2 plants growing in swamp and moore: Peat fluff and Cotton grass. Two plants that at first sight look the same. Since Old English and Old Frysian language are very much related, 'ofer myrcan mor,' in the Beowulf line 1405 could mean the 'peat fluffy moore' Just to show how difficult it is to know for certain any statement regarding the meaning of Myrkviðr. This could actually mean 'swamp forest with Peat fluff and/or Cotton grass'. you can check the word murk in www.wurdboek.nl It translates Dutch to Frysian and the other way arround.

Lz89z1 (talk) 22:04, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

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