Talk:Boleskine House

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I rewrote the section on Boleskine as the Kiblah: I changed the definition of that word slightly to make it more precise, and added a dictionary link as a citation. I cleaned up the writing a bit, and added a link for a citation of the quote from Sabazius.

On the Sabazius quote, I do have a question. The actual link where that quote is found is credited to one "Tau Apiryon." It is on Sabazius's "Invisible Basilica" site, however. Is Tau Apiryon another magical name for Sabazius? Or should we change the name cited in the article?Psuliin 18:02, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

It's the same person --Rodneyorpheus (talk) 23:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

The coordinates need the following fixes:

• Write here

The coordinates of the house itself should actually be:

Lat. 57° 15’ 55.3″ N Long. 4° 28’ 28.8″ W

Decimal 57.265387, –4.474746 71.36.28.189 (talk) 18:52, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. BrainMarble (talk) 02:25, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Photo, and who owned it before and after Page?

Does anyone have a photo of the house from the time AC lived there? Would be a nice addition to the page. And who owned it before and after Jimmy Page (for the article) and why (personal) would he have sold it once he owned it? An article says he sold it because of family obligations, but even then. Strange. Aleister Wilson (talk) 11:16, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I can't oblige your requests, but if I'm reading the map here correctly, Google Maps seems to show a hotel called Foyers Bay House occupying the building now. However, this looks like a mistake, as the same hotel is also marked here in the village of Foyers, which is a more sensible place for a lodging by that name. Presumably Boleskine House is still a private home whose owners aren't interested in publicity, as my first link said was the case in 1991. Even then, as you said: Strange! Lusanaherandraton (talk) 04:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

In literature

I've added an "In literature" section that could be expanded. Parzivalamfortas 09:39, 14 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parzivalamfortas (talk • contribs)

Factual clean-up

I've tried to add or amend some small details to try make it more solid, more like an encyclopedia entry than merely the sensationalist stories surrounding it (even though those have some validity, they being arguably the building's main claim to fame, even those can be presented to show more scrutiny and relevance.

A summary of some small edits: It is south-east (or "east-south-east"), not south. The loch runs offset from north to south in a line from Inverness to Glasgow. It's not particularly close to Foyers, but Foyers is the postal address district and the biggest and best known village in the area. There are some cottages nearby called Easter Boleskine, but if you check on a map, Crowley's description of the location is the most accurate so I have used that (between Foyers and Inverfarigaig). I've amended "lodge" to "manor" (the lodge is small outbuilding). It is not next to a graveyard. It's on a hill, and the graveyard is down below, nearer the loch, on the far side of the road, although you can't really see it from Boleskine House. This is from my own memory, but there are photos of the graveyard on Jimmy Page's website that bear out it is not 'next' to Boleskine House, and if you search using OpenStreetMap rather than Google, the cemetery is clearly marked It sounds a bit long-winded so I have just put "on a hillside above" (feel free to correct it). http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/scotland/invernesshire/occult/boleskine-house.html describes it as "across from the property" which is correct in the broadest sense if you include the tract of land on the hillside between the house and the road. I thought of correcting or deleting, "Crowley later claimed that his experiments with black magic had simply got out of hand" as it would seem clearly the language of Redfern, not Crowley, who never seriously referred to his practices at Boleskine as "black magic." I don't know Redfern's source, though perhaps it was said to perpetuate legends. It is included as if to 'explain' the death of his lodge-keeper's children and sounds gratuitous. If the purpose is simply to include legends, why not include the story of Crowley taking Gillies haggis-hunting? (Hagiography, 417-419). The two references to "black magic" are not supported (Redfern is a sensationalist writer as can be seen from his successful titles) but there must surely be more factual references. I have inserted Crowley's own, which is supported by his many biographers and his own numerous writings. I've added Somerset Maugham's fictitious novel featuring Boleskine House under an "In Literature" section. My knowledge of wiki tag styles might be quite basic so feel free to polish. Parzivalamfortas 09:49, 14 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parzivalamfortas (talk • contribs)

Unit of measurement

I propose changing

"Boleskine House is 34 kilometres (21 mi) south of Inverness"

to

"Boleskine House is 21 miles (34 km) south of Inverness"

as Imperial units are used in the United Kingdom, more so than that of kilometres, which are seldom used for distance.

Furthermore, MOS:UNIT states that for the UK: "the primary units for distance/​length, speed and fuel consumption are miles, miles per hour, and miles per imperial gallon".

Any objections?

--Individulator (talk) 05:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Archibald Fraser

The wording on the choice of site is now as the source but Simon Fraser, 11th Lord Lovat says he was on the Jacobite side in 1745 and, as he was beheaded in 1747, it seems unlikely he was greatly irritated by the building of this house in the 1760s so I've changed the Lovat to Simon Fraser of Lovat who was around and had an equivocal role in 1745. Cavrdg (talk) 08:34, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

There was no `English' (or `Scottish') side in the 1745 Jacobite rebellion as this was not a war between England and Scotland, but between political factions. Good history books and the Wikipedia article on the subject will explin this. Barney Bruchstein (talk) 20:00, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

George Raft or George Sanders?

I've read elsewhere that the actor George Raft never had any connection with Boleskine House, but on the other hand the actor George Sanders did, through a friend who was responsible for the non-existent pig-farm scam. Which is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.66.95 (talk) 17:50, 24 April 2021 (UTC)