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A Problem Booklet for IIM-CAT 2008

School of Management
Quantitative Aptitude (Volume III)

A Sample Booklet( not for sale)

Rahul Kumar Jha


Mar-Nov 2008
Problem Set

151) Let a, b, c be distinct such that a + 1/b = b + 1/c = c + 1/a, then abc
equals

a) 1 b) 0 c) -1 d) greater than 1 e) Less than -1

152) Find tan 9 − tan 27 − tan 63 + tan 81 ( all angles in degrees)

a) 2 b) 3 c) 4 d) 5 e) none of these

153) Let tan θ = tan 10 − tan 50 + tan 70 then θ is ?( all angles in degress)

a) 15 b) 30 c) 45 d) 60 e) 75

154)9x + 16y = n find n, where n is the greatest number such that both
of (x, y) are not positive?

a)119 b) 135 c) 128 d) 144 e) 169

155) Find the number of triangles formed when all the diagonals of a pen-
tagon are joined?

a) 120 b) 115 c) 110 d) 105 e) none of these

156)Let r be a root of x2 + 5x + 7 = 0. Compute (r − 1)(r + 2)(r + 6)(r + 3)

a) 0 b) 6 c) -6 d) 13 e) -13

1 1 2
157)Find the number of positive solution to x2 −10x−29
+ x2 −10x−45 = x2 −10x−69

a)0 b) 1 c) 2 d) 3 e) 4

158)Find the number of quadratic polynomials ax2 + bx + c such that:

a) a, b, c are distinct.

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b) a, b, c ∈ {1, 2, 3, ...2008}
c) x + 1 divides ax2 + bx + c

a) 2013018 b) 2013021 c) 2014024 d) 2018040 e) none


of these
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159) Suppose K be the number of integers n such that 2 n+1
2 is also an integer.
Then K is
a) 0 b) 1 c) 2 d) 3 e) none of these

160) Let a, b be positive integers such that a1 = ab, b1 = a+b , a2 =
√ a1 +b1
√ 2
an−1 +bn−1
a1 b1 , b2 = 2 ... thus is general for all n, an = an−1 bn−1 , bn = 2
Let X = |bn − an |, and Y = |bn + an | then

a) X ≤ |b−a|
2n+1
b) X ≤ |b−a|
2n
c) Y ≤ |b−a|
2n+1
d) Y ≤ |b−a|
2n
e) none of these

161) Triangle ABC has base AB of length k and C is such that < CAB =
2 < CBA < 120◦ . Then the locus of C is :

a) Straight line b) circle d) ellipse d) Parabola e) none


of these

162) For how many primes p is p2 + 3p − 1 also prime?

a) 0 b) 1 c) 2 d) 3 e) none of these

163) There are two ants on opposite corners of a cube. On each move,
they can travel along an edge to an adjacent vertex. If the probability that
they both return to their starting position after 4 moves is m
n
, where m and
n are relatively prime integers, find m + n. (NOTE:They do not stop if they
collide.)

a) 17 b) 65 c) 73 d) 85 e) none of these

164) Find the sum 1 + 74 + 9


49
+ 16
343
+ ···

2
27 49 243 343
a) 49
b) 27
c) 343
d) 243
e) none of these

165) In a certain town, every girl is acquainted with more boys then girls.
Furthermore, all the girls acquainted with a given boy are also acquainted
with each other.Then
a) The number of boys is always greater than the number of girls.
b) The number of girls is always greater than the number of boys .
c) There are at least as many boys as girls in the town .
d) There are at least as many girls as boys in the town.
e) none of these

166) Find the number of pairs of positive integers (x, y) such that x6 =
y 2 + 127

a) 0 b) 1 c) 2 d) 3 e) none of these

167) Let m > 1 be a positive integer then find the number of pairs (x, y)
of positive integers such that x2 − y 2 = m3

a) 0 b) 4 c) 8 d) 12 e) none of these

168)Let N be a positive integer. Then which of the following is(are) true?

a) If N is divisible by 4, then N can be expressed as the sum of two or


more consecutive odd integers.
b) If N is a prime number, then N cannot be expressed as the sum of two or
more consecutive odd integers.
c) If N is twice some odd integer, then N cannot be expressed as the sum of
two or more consecutive odd integers.
d) At least two of the foregoing
e) All of the foregoing

169) Given natural number N, denote as f(N) the following sum of N in-
tegers:
f(N) = [N/1] + [N/2] + [N/3] + ... + [N/N] (where [x] denotes the greatest
integer that does not exceed x.). Then find f(128)-f(127):

a) 1 b) 2 c) 4 d) 8 e) none of these

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170) Let n and m be positive integers. An n ∗ m rectangle is tiled with
unit squares. Let r(n, m) denote the number of rectangles formed by the
edge of these unit squares. Thus, for example, r(2, 1) = 3. Find r(11, 12)

a) 132 b) 5148 c) 20592 d) 10296 e) none of these


5−x
 
x(5−x)
171) Find the number of real positive integral roots of x+1
x+ =6
x+1
a) 0 b) 1 c) 2 d) 3 e) 4

172) Let p1 , p2 , p3 and p4 be distinct prime numbers satisfying :


2p1 + 3p2 + 5p3 + 7p4 = 162
11p1 + 7p2 + 5p3 + 4p4 = 162
Then p1 p2 p3 p4 = k find the number of possible values of k?

a) 0 b) 1 c) 2 d) 3 e) none of these

173) How many ways to fill the 4X4 board by nonnegative integers, such
that sum of the numbers of each row and each column is 3?

a) 2006 b) 2007 c) 2008 d) 2009 e) 2010

174)Let H be a set of 2000 nonzero real numbers. How many negative


elements should H have in order to maximize the number of four-element
subsets of H with a negative product of elements?

a) 1039 b) 961 c) either a or b d) neither a nor b e) none of these

175) Let p(x) = x2 + bx + c , where b and c are integers. If p(x) is a


factor of both x4 + 6x2 + 25 and 3x4 + 4x2 + 28x + 5 , what is p(1)?

a) 0 b) 4 c) 8 d) 12 e) none of these

176) Two different teams with four students each were training for an in-
ternational math contest. The students were given an assessment exam and
their scores were ranked. What is the probability that the four best scores

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come from only one of the teams assuming that no two students got the same
score?

a) 1/2 b) 1/16 c) 1/35 d) 1/288 e) 1/576

177) Let A = {a1 , a2 ..ak } be any set of k composite numbers such that
1 ≤ ai ≤ 120 f or all i such that1 ≤ i ≤ k. Find the least value of k such
that there exists at least one pair (ai , aj ), 1 ≤ i, j ≤ k in A which is not co
prime ?

a) 3 b) 4 c) 5 d) 6 e) 7

178) A polynomial P has four roots 1/4, 1/2, 2, 4. The product of the roots
is 1, and P (1) = 1. Find P (0).

a) 0 b) 1/9 c) -1/9 d) 8/9 e) -8/9

179) Find the sum of all positive integers m such that m2 + 25m + 19 is
a perfect square?

a) 125 b) 130 c) 159 d) 164 e) 198

180) Given that m, a, and b are positive integers such that


m + 5a + 7b = 84 and
m + 7a + 10b = 114 then f ind
9m + 23a + 30b =?

a) 210 b) 426 c) 145 d) 325 e) none of these

181)Let there be two lines AC and BC such that < ACB = 90◦ . We
draw circles C1 , C2 , ..Cn with radii R1 , R2 , ..Rn , (Ri > Rj , if i > j). All
these circles are tangent to the lines AC and BC, and any two circles
Cp , Cp+1 (1 ≤ p ≤ n−1) are tangent to each other. Find R1 +R2 +R3 +...+Rn
when n = N where N is very large
√ √ √ √
a) 2+1
2
R1 b) ( 2 + 1)R1 c) 2+1
2
RN d) ( 2 + 1)RN e)
none of these

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182) a, b, c, d be real numbers in G.P. If u, v, w satisfy the equations u +
2v + 3w = 6; 4u + 5v + 6w = 12; 6u + 9v = 4 then roots of the equations
(1/u + 1/v + 1/w)x2 + [(b − c)2 + (c − a)2 + (d − b)2 ]x + u + v + w = 0 and
20x2 + [10(a − d)2 ]x − 9 = 0 are

a) equal to each other b) reciprocal to each other c) at least


one of the foregoing d) all of the foregoing e) none of the foregoing

Directions for problem 183 and 184:


a and b are positive integers such that gcd(a, b) = 1 and
a
b
+ 14a
9b
is an integer.

183) What is the value of b?


a) 1 b) 3 c) 9 d) 6 e) can not be uniquely determined

184) How many pairs (a, b) exist?

a) 1 b) 2 c) 4 d) 6 e) none of these

185)A boy spends Rs. 81 in buying some pens and pencils. If a pen costs
Rs.7 and a pencil Rs 3, What is the ratio of pens to pencils when the maxi-
mum number of pens are purchased such that no extra money is given to the
shopkeeper?

a) 3 : 2 b) 2 : 1 c) 5 : 4 d) 7 : 2 e) none of these

186) Find the sum 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/6 + 1/8 + 1/9 + 1/12

a) 1 b) 2 c) 3 d) 4 e) none of these
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187) Arrange in ascending order x = 60 3 , y = 2 + 7 3 , 3,4

a) 3,x,y,4 b) 3,y,x,4 c) 3,x,4,y d) 3,y,4,x e) cannot be


determined

188) Let a, b, c be complex numbers such that:


a2 b2 c2
b+c
+ a+c + a+b = 0 Then

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a b c
b+c
+ a+c
+ a+b
equals?

a) 0 b) 1 c) -3 d) a, b and c e) b and c

189)Which is/are true?


q √ q √
I) log( 3 − 5 + 3 + 5) = 1/2
II) 3 < 6 log 2 +√log 31 < 4 √ √ √
III)if a = log7 (2 2 + 1) + log2 ( 2 − 1) then log7 (2 2 − 1) + log2 ( 2 + 1) =
2−a

a) I,II b) II,III c) I,III d) I,II and III e) none of these

190)If A, B and C denote the angles of a triangle then find the maximum
value of sin2 A + sin B sin C cos A

a) 1 b) 8/9 c) 9/8 d) 4/9 e) 9/4

Directions for problem 191-200:Each question is followed by 2 state-


ments X and Y. Answer each question using the following instructions
Choose A if the question can be answered using X alone
Choose B if the question can be answered using Y alone
Choose C if the question can be answered using either X or (exclusive) Y
Choose D if the question can be answered using X and Y together
Choose E if the question can not be answered using X and Y also

191) What are the ages of three brothers?


X: The product of their ages is 21
Y: The Sum of their ages is not divisible by 3

192) Is x = y?
X:(x + y)( x1 + y1 ) = 4
Y:(x − 50)2 = (y − 50)2

193)What is the value of m and n?


X: n is an even number, m is an odd number, m.n
Y: mn = 30

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194) In a family, Kamla, her brother, her daughter and her son live. They
play a game of cards. Is Kamla the best player?

X: The worst player’s twin and the best player are of the opposite sex.
Y: The worst player and the best player are of the same age

195) a + b + c equals?

X: a, b and c are in A.P


Y: a2 + b2 + c2 = 83, where a, b and c  N .

196) Let p(x) = x2 + 40. Then for any two positive integers i and j where
i > j, is p(i) + p(j) a composite number?

X: p(i)p(j) is not a composite number


Y: p(2i) + p(2j) is a composite number

197)What is the length of the side AB of triangle ABC?

(X) AB <= AC = 2, and area of triangle ABC is 2


(Y) Exactly two sides have integer length

198) Is p = q, if pqrst = 4?

X: r = s = t Y: Three of p, q, r, s and t are integers.

199)Find the age of three sisters?


X: The product of their ages is 72,The sum is 14
Y: the eldest studies in class 3

200)Can we measure 15 minutes using two given sand glasses?

X:One sand glass takes 7 minute and other takes 11 minutes for the sand
to go through to the bottom.
Y:One sand glass takes 4 minutes and other takes 10 minutes for the sand
to go through to the bottom.

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Answer Key

151) a) 152) c) 153) d) 154) a) 155) c)


156) d) 157) b) 158) c) 159) c) 160) b)
161) d) 162) b) 163) d) 164) b) 165) c)
166) b) 167) e) 168) e) 169) d) 170) b)
171) e) 172) b) 173) c) 174) c) 175) b)
176) c) 177) c) 178) d) 179) d) 180) b)
181) c) 182) b) 183) b) 184) c) 185) a)
186) c) 187) b) 188) e) 189) d) 190) c)
191) e) 192) a) 193) d) 194) d) 195) d)
196) a) 197) a) 198) d) 199) d) 200) a)

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Short Hints

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152) use tan 90 − x = cot x and then tan θ + cot θ = sin 2θ

154) ax + by = n if gcd(a, b) = 1 then the greatest n such that both (x, y)


are not positive is ab − b − a

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155) C3 − 5.2 = 120 − 10 = 110

156)(r2 + 5r − 6)(r2 + 5r + 6)
= (r2 + 5r + 7 − 13)(r2 + 5r + 7 − 1)
= (−13)(−1) = 13

157) put x2 − 10x = y will reduce to a quadratic in y and we get finally


x = 13, −3 so positive x is 13

158) solution is finding the solns of a + c = b now b = 3 gives (2, 1), (1, 2).
b = 4 gives (3, 1), (1, 3) so 2 solution. then for each b we have solutions as
2(d 2b e−1) so summing we get 2+2+4+4+· · ·+2006+2006 = 2·1003·1004 =
2014024
√ √
√ ( bn−1 − an−1 )2
160) X = |bn −an | = | bn−1 +an−1
2
− a b
n−1 n−1 | = | 2
| ≤ | bn−1 −a
2
n−1
|
|b−a|
now use the inequality n times we get X ≤ 2n

161)can be easily proved take one vertex at origin other at (k,0) and third
2 tan θ
as (x,y) use the formula for tan 2θ = 1−tan 2θ

162) p2 + 3p − 1 = 6k + 3p = 3(2k + p) ( for all primes p ≥ 5


so cases remaining are p = 2, 3
clearly p = 2 gives p2 + 3p − 1 = 9
and p = 3 gives p2 + 3p − 1 = 17
so only prime is p = 3

163)At each step each ant can go three ways, so total no of ways 34 .34 = 81.81
now each ant can come back to original in 6 ways along one face ABCD be

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the square, then ABCDA, ADCBA,ABABA,ADADA,ABCBA,ADCDA
now we have 3 faces so we get 6.3 = 18
same for the other ant with C as initial point so m/n = 18.18/81.81 = 4/81
m + n = 85

n 2
164) Tn = 7n−1
now Let S = 1 + 4/7 + 9/49 + 16/343 + ............
S/7 = 1/7 + 4/49 + 9/343 + ........
S − S/7 = 6S/7 = 1 + 3/7 + 5/49 + 7/343 + .............
6S/49 = 1/7 + 3/49 + 5/343 + ...........
6S/7 − 6S/49 = 36S/49 = 1 + 2/7 + 2/49 + 2/343 + .......
or, 36S/49 = 1 + 2(1/7 + 1/49 + 1/343 + ......) = 1 + 2(1/6) = 4/3

or, S = 49/27

165)If n girls know a certain boy, any one girl in the group would have
(n − 1) girl friends; this would imply that every girl (in the group) would
have to know at least n boys, so that they would know more boys than girls.
Now, if every girl knew the same boys, there would be n boys and n girls (the
minimum of boys). If there are girls that do not know each other through a
specific boy, there would be (n + m) boys, and n girls, withn + m > n .

166) Note that 127 is prime . now (x3 + y)(x3 − y) = 127.1 as x, y are
positive integers x3 + y = 127, x3 − y = 1 so we get one pair (4, 63)
2 m2 −m
167) let x = m+m 2
and y = 2
then clearly for each m we have one
solution. so infinite solutions

168) n=4k, n=(2k-1)+(2k+1); b) if n is the sum of m consecutive odd in-


tegers, m—n. as we are given that n is prime, we have m=n, so n is being
expressed as the sum of n consecutive odd integers. In this case, all primes
(except for 2) can be expressed as the sum of consecutive odd integers: 3=-
1+1+3, 5=-3+-1+1+3+5, etc. (follow the pattern); c)the sum of an odd
number of odd integers will be odd, thus it cannot :equiv:2 mod 4. So, we
have that the number of odd integers is even, meaning that the mean falls
right in between two terms of the sequence, i.e. it is even. However, the
sum of this arithmetic series will be the number of terms times the mean,
i.e. an even number of terms times an even mean will be :equiv:0 mod 4.

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contradiction
So all three are correct

169)the only time in which one of the terms in the expansion of f(128) will be
diff. than in one of the terms of f(127) will be in the [N/1] term, and in any
subsequent terms of the form [N/d], where d—128. To see why, observe that
for any term of the form [N/k], k not dividing 128 and not equal to 1, 128 and
127 will have the same integer quotients upon division by k and thus that
term will be the same. Ok, finally, note that for each term of the form [N/d],
k—128, the difference between [128/d] and [127/d] will be 1, as [128/d] will
have exactly one more factor of d. So essentially what the question is asking
for is the number of divisors of 128, that is (7+1)=8

170) r(n,m)=n(n+1)m(m+1)/4. To see why, partition these rectangles up


according to their width, and assume that there are A rectangles that can
be formed from a 1*m column. Well then there will be n*A rectangles of
width 1, (n-1)*A rectangles of width 2, (n-2)*A rectangles of width 3 ... 1*A
rectangle of width n. When we add these up, we get n(n+1)A/2. Ok, now
we need to find A. We partition the rectangles that can be formed from a
1*m column similarly, except with respect to their length. There will be (in
a similar fashion) m rectangles of length 1, m-1 rectangles of length 2, ..., 1
rectangle of length m, i.e. A=m(m+1)/2. Putting all this together gives the
formula at the beginning.

171) on solving we get x=2,1 as roots so 2 solutions .

172) subtract the two equations gives 9p1 + 4p2 = 3p4 clearly 3 divides
p2 hence p2 = 3 this give 3p1 + 4 = p4 solving which gives (p1 , p4 ) =
(5, 19), (11, 37).. the second and further solutions wont work as it will lead
to negative value of p3 . hence only one set!
p.s: there is no further need but we can proceed to find p3 = 2 :)

174) Let H has p positive elements and n negative elements.then p + n =


2000 = s now p C3 .n +n C3 .p are the number of subsets of H with negative
product. further we get
pn 2
6
(p + n2 − 3p − 3n + 4) = pn6
((p + n)2 − 2pn − 3(p + n) + 4) = pn
6
(−2pn +
2
(s − 3s + 4)) let pn = x we get a quadratic in x we get x = 1039 or 961

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175) x4 + 6x2 + 25 can be easily factorized as (x2 − 2x + 5)(x2 + 2x + 5)
so one of them is p(x) further investigation proves p(x) = x2 − 2x + 5

176) Suppose the teams are A and B. there are two favorable ways. All
from A or all from B. Trick here is to find the total no of ways which comes
out to be 8 C4 . I leave it to you to figure it out :)

177) 121 = 112 > 120 so the prime factors are 2, 3, 5, 7 which make the
composite numbers of A. By pigeon − hole principle there must be at max
4 such composites which will not be co-prime. So the required minimum k is 5

178) P (x) = a(4x − 1)(2x − 1)(x − 2)(x − 4)

179) let m2 + 25m + 19 = k 2 where k is a positive integer.


⇒ 4(m2 + 25m + 19) = 4k 2
⇒ 4m2 + 100m + 76 = r2 (r = 2k)
⇒ 4m2 + 100m + 76 + 549 = r2 + 549
⇒ (2m + 25)2 − r2 = 549
⇒ (2m + 25 + r)(2m + 25 − r) = 549 = 32 .61
solving we get m = 5, 34, 125

180) m + 5a + 7b = 84 and m + 7a + 10b = 114


gives 2a + 3b = 30
this gives
m + a + b = 24
so
9m + 23a + 30b = (m + 5a + 7b) + (m + 7a + 10b) + 7(m + a + b) + 2(2a + 3b) =
84 + 114 + 7 ∗ 24 + 2 ∗ 30 = 198 + 168 + 60 = 426


181) Any circle Ci will form a square of the side Ri so Oi C = √ 2Ri us-
ing this we can form a relation that 0i+1 C = Ri+1 + Ri + Oi ⇒ 2Ri+1 =

2Ri Ri+1 + Ri use this and sum of an infinite GP we get the answer in terms
of RN

182) solve for u, v, w we get u = −1/3, v = 2/3 and w = 5/3 gives


u + v + w = 2 and (1/u + 1/v + 1/w) = −9/10 and also use the condi-

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tion of gp then (a − d)2 = (b − c)2 + (c − a)2 + (d − b)2 so the two equations
have reciprocal roots

183) Let ab + 14a


9b
= k where k is an integer
⇒ 9a2 + 14b2 = 9abk clearly 9 divides RHS and 9a2 so 9 divides b2 so b is of
the form 3m or 9t where gcd(m, 3) = 1 andgcd(t, 9) = 1 but if b = 9t , RHS
will be divisible by 81 and LHS by 9 so b = 3

184) b = 3 so we get that only 1, 2, 7, 14 i.e the divisors of 14 should di-


vide a else it would not divide 14b2 so a = 1, 2, 7, 14 hence 4 pairs

185)7x + 3y = 81, 3 divides RHS and 3y so 3 divides x. So we get x = 3, 6, 9


we need max x, so x = 9 which gives y = 6 so ratio is 3 : 2

186) series is just the sum of numbers whose reciprocals have only 2 and
3 as prime divisors. So sum = (1 + 1/2 + 1/4...)(1 + 1/3 + 1/9..) =
[1/(1 − 1/2)][1/(1 − 1/3)] = 3

187)Just prove which is larger?(4(m + n))( 1/3) or m( 1/3) + n( 1/3) (because


if we let m = 8, n = 7 we get our case) for positive reals m, n. Then let
m = a3 , n = b3 and try to see which is bigger. we will get x > y
 
a b c a(b+c) b(a+c) c(a+b)
188) b+c + a+c + a+b (a + b + c) = b+c
+ a+c
+ a+b
= a + b + c so
either the sum is −3 or 1
q √ q √
189) II
√ √ √ √ and III are
√√obvious.√√what remains is I. 3 − 5 + 3 + 5 =
6−2 5+ 6+2 5 2
( 5−1) + ( 5+1) 2 √ √

2
= √
2
= 2√25 = 10 take log we get 1/2

a2 c b2 +c2 −a2 a2 +b2 +c2 9R2 −OH 2


190) sin2 A+sin B sin C cos A = 4R2
b
+ 2R · 2R · 2bc = 8R2
= 8R2

9R2
8R2
= 98

191)easy !

193) 15,2 easy!

194) we cannot comment anything specific by using either alone. If we use


both together, we look at this

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If Kamla is worst player , the best player is female , but this defies other
condition that the best player and worst player are of same age

now if her brother is worst player best player is then her son. this means
katrina her son and her brother are of same age. not possible again

if her son is worst player, the best player is male so he must be katrina’s
brother
now if we assume that her son and her brother are of same age this can
happen.

=> option (D)

195) easy 3,5,7

196) p(i)p(j) is not a composite number


=> i2 − j 2 is a prime as i, j are positive integers and i > j, (i2 − j 2 ) can’t be
1
=> (i + j)(i − j) = prime so i − j = 1 let p be the prime so i = (p + 1)/2,
j = (p − 1)/2
clearly p is not 2 hence all p is odd
p(i) + p(j) = 80 + (p2 + 1)/2
now p2 = 6k + 1 ( can be easily proved) [ p(p − 1)(p + 1) is divisible by 6 now
p is a prime so p2 − 1 = 6k, p2 = 6k + 1, for any prime p greater than 3]
therefore p(i) + p(j) = 80 + (p2 + 1)/2 becomes
80 + (6k + 2)/2 = 81 + 3k = 3(27 + k)
so not a prime =¿ can be answered by using X

now, p(2i) + p(2j) is a composite number


4(i2 + j 2 + 20) is composite

now i and j can be anything


can’t make any conclusions

=> choice (A) is the right answer

197) Area = ∗ (AB).(AC).sinA => 2 = ∗ AB.2.sinA => ABsinA = 2.


But AB <= 2andsinA <= 1 => AB = 2.

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=> choice (A) is the right answer
199) 8.3.3 and 6.6.2 so can’t say with X also can’t say with Y. But Y says
eldest so combining the two, we get eldest in case 1, so ages are 8,3,3. option
d
200) 15 = 11.2 − 7 so if we start the two timers together when the 7 minute
timer runs out, reverse it, now when the 11 minute timer runs out, the 7
minute timer will show 4, reverse it. we got 11+4 so A other two timers are
even and 15 is odd

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