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Charakaraka replacement
Lecture on Chara Karaka replacement and its use in predictions. The division of Jiva-atma and Jada-atma,
and how this changes the chara karaka scheme as well as its usage. Definitely worth listening to.
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Respected Visti Ji
Very Nice lecture indeed and very practical approach as usual to jyotish, and that’s what I like the
most about your lectures.
for clarity of understanding as usual I take another example
Natal Chart
In this chart sun and jupiter are at the same degrees 0. sun leading in Minutes so he gets the Gnati
Karaka status and jupiter is at Dhara Karaka, Now as you can see that Su is 6th from Ra (Ak) so
will it be safe to predict that before 34 years of age (Jupiter’s natural age? actually it would be nice
if you can enamurate the natural ages of each planet?) the native would be quite crossed with the
community (Gnati) and after that age he will get closer to the friends relatives. now when that
happens venus will take over the Dhara Karaka status as the place stays vacant. Now venus is
cojoining ju in the second house and is also the badhakesh and retrograde and also the putra
Karaka. So what could be the results of that. The placement of the Dk still remains the same though
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but now it joins the Guru chandala yoga formed between Ju and ra.
Also Moon is Amk and is in the MKS in this chart. The native has a lot of instability on his Job
front. he is in a very high position in the private sector but he just cant seem to fix into a stable job.
So do you think we need to remedy this moon for him to a more stable job? Also that could
obviously help also by the fact that Moon is also the lagna lord. In Navamsa that Moon is placed in
Aries moving towards exhaltation and involved in a nice gaja kesari with ju. However moon is Jala
tattwa and Aries is fiery sign so it cant be very comfortable there?
Quote
For MKS we advise the aditya of the karaka of the house wherein the MKS happens. I.e. for Sun in
twelfth it should be Varuna-aditya.
End Quote
So in this case the house is the 8th house and karaka is Saturn and that also is varuna-aditya. so do
you reckon that we should advise Om Ghrini varuna aditya mantra to the native for the MKS of the
Amk?
Regards
Tarun
2. Sharat Says:
March 28th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Best Wishes
Sharat
As far as his stability is concerned, by any chance does he tend to jump from job to job? For
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the last seven years? I think the aspect of Mercury on the ninth house seems indicative of this,
and tends to increase the persons lobha considerably.
The remedy is to worship Vishnu to calm this down and increase stability. The Varuna remedy
is also correct but i think the issue is the curse on Mercury and its aspect on the ninth house.
Do clarify.
Respected Visti Ji
As usual you are bang on the target with your inference about the Job of the native, This is precisely
what is happening. The aspect of the cursed mercury on the 9th house increasing the lobha was a
new concept for me. Could you kindly elaborate on that?
It is strange that we always tend to forget that the Sun can also cause a curse. Anyways, since
mercury himself is the lord of the house we cant use him for that, the karaka is Mars and he is
placed in the 5th house so do you think that we could advise the worship of sri rudra to mitigate this
curse situation.
Ok from mercury came the worship of Sri Vishnu but that was not a part of the original plan of
remedies that we suggested, we are supposed to look in three fold scheme right?
1. Lord - Guru
2. Karaka - Pratiyadi Devata
3. Bhava Devata - as per the list mentioned.
I understood the Vimsottari use that you mentioned the 7 years from as Me joins the Su so there is
new experiences happening and the aspects are on the 9th house. The antardasa is of Sun and Sun is
the 8th from the moon and Moon does not like that (MKS) thus, the mind would be in constant
termoil during this period? however this still qualifies to be a wealth making period as it falls in the
high tide zone? Since Mercury (Maha Dasa lord at sould level) is also 6th from the AK so the soul is
not very happy as Ra does not like planets in the 6th from it? What is the remedy for those
situations?
Finally the Pratyantar Dasa and that is of Mer at the moment. So he is running Me- Sun -Me and
that is the last antardasa in the curse. Me is placed 3rd house from the Lg and that could indicate
that the native will show a lot of initiative in this time but that can indicate the Me curse could be
delievered also at this time. what remedies do we suggest for this time. I believe that since that for a
mahadasa level we have to get the effect to soul level and could we use me jyotirlinga for that? At
the antardasa level which is 8th from the Moon at this time could we use Shanti devata for the sun
and thus Siva Mantra, and probably some donations etc(more physical) at the pratyantardasa level?
Dear Sharat
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Thanks for the list. i checked from cova and for the benefit of others here is the list (I quote here
the source is Pt Sanjay Rath’s Crux of Vedic Astrology)
Regards
Tarun
Namaste Vistiji,
What is the reason behind Mercury’s aspect on the 9th house increasing lobha in a person? Is this
applicable only when Mercury is afflicted, or is this true in general?
Namaste Vistiji,
Also I suppose by aspect, you meant graha drishti of Mercury and not the rasi drishti, although in
the given chart both are applicable.
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case the issue arises during the dasa/antara of the specific graha. Hence the issue.
Namaste Vistiji,
Thank you very much for your succinct explanation. Yes, the dictum is now clear to me.
namaste vistiji,
This lecture about charakaraka replacements was very important to me,thank you very much.
when AK and Amk are in same degree the Amk becomes the AK at its maturation age but what role
does the real atmakaraka planet play in the chart after being replaced by amatyakaraka.
For example in my case,venus is the AK and mars is the Amk at 28 degree,so at my 28th year my
Ak will be replaced by Amk-mars but what role does venus (former atmakaraka) play from then in
the chart(as charakaraka).
After the replacement should all the results of Ak be reckoned from mars(new AK).
Now the place of Amk is taken over by the natural Amk jupiter and the results are predicted based
on the position of jupiter in the chart and my jupiter is debilitated in 8th in rasi. As you have
mentioned in your audio that such placement give a major setback and instability in the career,but
what happens when that neecha jupiter is having neechabanga by being exalted in navamsa as it is
in my case.
And which chart among rasi and navamsa has more weightage in this matter.
I would like to tell you that six months back when i had been to a coffee reader for predictions,she
said “you do not have much blessings regarding career and there will be change of profession after
28th year”.
And now i have learnt that charakaraka replacement is the cause for the above.
yours sicerely,Raghava
Vistiji,
Hare Rama Krishna. I had the oppurtunity to go over many lessons held at different conferences
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Atmakaraka replacement by Sanjayji was fantastic. When checking Charakaraka replacement then
the karaka must be in same degree . Even if one planet is 28 degree 07 min and another is 27 degree
55 min … though technically close they do not qualify for replacement ..is that correct ?
With respect to the Guru curse you pointed out, after hearing to remedial measure lectures by
Sanjayji, i learnt in my case Guru is also Atmakaraka. So the breaking of curse must involve Ista
Devata, which is Ra (12th from Karakamsa) and Palana Devta which is Ke(6th from Amk Mercury)
I am reciting Aim Hreem Kleem chamundaya Vichaye which is also taking care of a sarpa dosha as
three malefics are in kendra.
However do we have to do something for Lord Ganesha ? Note Ketu has some role being in 10th
house in D1 and 9th House in D10.
Also analysis of curse , can i infer that my guru and isthta devta both wanted to teach a lesson.So
even my guru to unlock the curse will refer to IStha devta- like go and take her blessings
Whats the role of Jyotirlinga when AK is involved ? I was thinking since Ra is in Libra an even
footed sign , the diety must be female . Also lagna involves chara rasi Cancer?
Also in rings, i feel Yellow sapphire which i am already wearing is good and Pearl which shall
strenthen the moon should be good. Other than D1 Ju is well placed in Navamsa and D60 indicating
Guru has no other anger except the curse. Dharma is also good as Ju is in own house in D60.
Red coral though Mars is yogakaraka would promote the curse binding too ? Hanuman Chalisa, a
praise for Hanuman can invoke more beneficial impact of Mars and can be used instead of ring.
With folded hands, i pray to all guru’s of SJC for their blessings
Regards,
Subbu
Dear Visti,
Please advise whether dharma and palan devata would change with change in AK, given that ishta
devata does not.
Likewise, if there is charakaraka replacement between BK and MK, one would have to / experience
change of the deity associated with BK?
Many thanx
SS
Raghava
Don’t reckon the devata’s, etc. from the ‘new AK’. Its actually not a new Atma but rather the
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attitude has changed from self to work/karma. Karma is not Atma even though they tend to
follow each other.
Neecha bhanga will help you into a better situation career wise. Good for you.
Subbu
Your inference about the degrees is correct.
Do see my answer to Raghava as well.
Atmalinga is worshiped to ensure that the bonds of the atma aren’t too strong. Best advise is to
worship both atmalinga and ishta devata when the curse is on it.
Generally when the Ishta devata is a malefic, God will teach through heavy lessons.
Gemstones is a bit out of context for this discussion.
SS
See my above answers.
Dear Vishtiji,
What is the role of Ayanamsa in Charakaraka Replacement. If in Raman and KP Ayanamsa shows
Charakaraka replacement - will it happen , if not shown in Chitrapaksha ?
Regards,
Subbu
So you cannot interchange between ayanamsas. There has to be one correct one, and this is
what we must figure out. So far i like Chitrapaksha and have seen very good results from it.
Dear Vistiji,
Thanks for your clarification. One final question - As you suggested my Narayan dasa of
Aq-Le(maraka) in D10 has brought a death like situation at work. Even my visa extention has come
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under issues.
After careful study, more than curse , i feel Sa(R) in MKS in most of the divisional chart has
brought in lot of pain .It being 6th lord in MKS is destroying service. Is there a stone or other
remedy to correct this.
I know the same has also caused a rajayoga as same planets aspects many div charts?
Again DOB:04feb1977;Time:17:47;Place:Delhi,India
Subbu
If you see your rasi chart we see, as we have analyzed before, a curse of Brahmin.
But, for such events to transpire, the planets involved in the curse must have some Rajbhanga
yoga and be associated with the ninth house of visa/movement.
Narayana dasa of Libra is running, as is Venus mahadasa. Venus isn’t involved in any curse
but its exalted in rasi and debilitated in navamsa showing Rajbhanga-Neecha yoga showing
that one great opportunity is pulled away from under your nose. As Venus is in the ninth house
it shows the opportunity to travel is being taken away.
If you wanto solve this issue now, you must worship Sri Kamalatmika Mahavidya. The Current
antardasa is of Gemini which has rasi dristi on Venus thereby bringing the dur-yoga.
This has to be started on a Friday morning before sunrise and you should complete 10.000
repetitions (tenth house) in 40 days.
The muhurta lagna of starting should be free of any planets in 5th or 8th house, and Venus
should preferably be in Lagna. It should be started during Shukla paksha. Closer to the Full
Moon is better. Moon must also be well placed.
Because your Saturn is in Cancer in lagna, you will be able to maneuver safely around Saturn’s
problems.
The mantra is: OM aiM hrIM shrIM klIM hsauH jagatprasutyai namaH.
Dear Visti,
Re. age at which CK replacement happens, it is around the natural age of maturation of the planet -
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is that of the planet higher in the order (agra-karaka) or the lower one?
Could you explify the same of how it would happen if there are 3 CKs in same degree?
Many thanx
SS
Vistiji,
People in my office have given up hopes in my case, including me. My practice head has said he
will talk to our Asia head to see if i can be placed back as manager in India/Singapore.
Meanwhile my current boss felt very bad and asked his friend who has his own company to absorb
me. He looked positive and said he will hire me in India due to visa issues and get me in US and file
my green card. However nothing concerete has materialised and he just has started this company.
He said i can relax in India for 6 months and then come back on a new visa.
I will see a muhurtha to start the maha vidya . Thanks so much for your help and kindness.
I will also do gayathri japa to make surya strong . Will wearing ruby help ?
Regards,
Subbu
Vistiji,
Before that if venus has to be in lagna , rahu is in 5th house. When Ve moves to Sc then Mars is in
eighth from Venus.
Regards,
Subbu
oops this not Fri…the criteria is very hard … cant see anything suitable till Feb 2008 ….
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Dear vistiji
I want to keep my promise and want to thank you for all your advice. So i pray to lord vithal and
Shankar that he give me courage to cope with my karma and come out successful in life. I seek his
blessings and peace of mind. I prostrate to jyotish guru like you for helping me in my karma
SS
It happens over a period of years. A good indicator is to take the lowest year and the highest
year and within this span of year the change will occur.
Subbu
Venus and Moon must be strong to get the blessings. So prefer them in or Kendra. Other than
that it must be a Friday during Shukla paksha. Good luck.
Best Regards,
SS
Dear Vistiji,
This friday ie Dec 14 2008 @ 5 AM,has ve in own house and moon in 4th , jup in own house .Its
Shukla Panchami.However it has Rahu in 5th and owning A9. Is it ok ?
Regards,
Subbu
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I stand corrected. Dec 14 2007 @ 5 AM San Francisco,CA has lagna and Ve togather with Ve
owning lagna. Moon in Cp in 4th ; Jup in Sg own house. Su and Me in Sc ; Rahu in 5th and owning
A2
I know you said 5th and 8th should be free from planets . Would this work…otherwise there is no
suitable date till March 08
Loos like god has squared me hard. Lets tae it easy and put trust in almighty. Whataever will
happen will be for best.
Vistiji,
I have seen a Muhurta which has good placement of planets on Jan 21 2008 , but its a monday .
Lagna has Jup and ve in Sag, 7th house has Moon and Mars in Gemini, 5th and 8th are free of any
planets. Monday is day of Moon , so can it be used instead of Friday ?
Subbu
Dear Visti,
If AK is conjoined 2 planets, which of the 2 wud we take - the one with higher longitude in rasi or
something to choose from malefic vs benefic?e.g. in the case above were Sa conjunct Ma along with
Ju, then what wud have been the choice?
Many thanx,
SS
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Dear Visti,
I meant Conjunction, not CKR. e.g. Sa+Ma+Ju in karakamsa, Sa as AK, Atmalinga wud be
preferred for which graha out of these?
If i understand correctly from what u explained earlier, with CK replacement the devatas wud not
change as the atma has not changed, but only it’s direction?
Many thanx
SS
Namaste Visti,
Thank you
Amna
Dear Visti,
Many thanx,
SS
Dear Visti,
I came across an interesting chart. This guy named Jeff Warren is the prophet of a polygamits cult
named the Fundamentalist Cult of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a breakaway from the original
Mormom church. And they believe and practise polygamy at very large scales. Recently he was
arrested and convicted on charges of being an accomplish to the rape of a minor.
The AK being with nodes and shani in a parivraj yoga and in 12th house maybe the reason of his
imprisonment?
Aalso since mercury is combust and at a lower degree than sun, was this the reason for his having
faced the wrath of Shiva? Merc is the amk before CK replacement.
Again merc is the badhakesh and being cursed can it indicate devata badhaka or forgetting a deity
in the past life causing the present problems?
-Regards
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Rajarshi
SS and Amna
The atmakaraka always stays the same, but the direction may change. So always treat the
original AK as atmakaraka.
Expect an article soon on the topic of Atmabandhana - as seen in the 12th from AK.
Rajarshi
I wonder how accurate the time is. Admittingly that combination in the twelfth speaks of a
person addicted to sex, but still where did you get the time?
Dear Visti,
I came across a western astrology site where they had tried to fit in his most of his important life
events and found his time to be 8:30 am. So yes his time of birth maybe a little suspect.
However if we accpet this is the correct time, then does it not indicate a bandhana? And also is the
merc getting combust in the parivraj yoga the reason for addiction to sex?
-Regards
Rajarshi
Dear Visti,
If AK is conjoined 2 planets, which of the 2 wud we take for choosing the atmalinga mantra e.g. if
Sa-AK is conjunct Ma along with Ju, then what wud be the choice for atmalinga - the one for Ma or
Ju or for Sa itself?
Many thanx,
SS
Regards,
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