Joshua Whitehead Garrity Statement

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ORIGINAL
INTERVIEW WITH OFFICER JOSHUA WHITEHEAD
AUDIO TRANSCRIPTION
May 30, 2018
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May 30, 2018
AUDIO RECORDING OF INTERVIEW
WITH OFFICER JOSHUA WHITEHEAD
GIVEN ON MAY 30, 2018
REFERENCE NUMBER IA2018-005
AT WEST JORDAN POLICE DEPARTMENT
Present during recording:

Lt. Drew Sanders
Tyrell Shepherd
Brett Rawson
Sgt. Danny Benzon
David Quealy
Reported by Amber Fraass RPR, CSR
Amber Fraass, RPR, CSR

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2 PROCEEDING
3 -O0O-
5 LT. SANDERS: All right. We are here on IA
6 number 2018-005. We are here with Josh Whitehead --
7 Officer Josh Whitehead, his attorney, Brett Rawson,
8 Sergeant Danny Benzon, Dave Quealy of the city attorney's
9 office, and I'm Lieutenant Drew Sanders. The date today
10 is May 30, 2018, the time is just after 10:15 a.m. We
11 are at the West Jordan Police Department, in the
12 administration conference room.
13 Now, before we go any further, I just want to
14 go over some ground rules on and what you can expect and
15 what we can expect, okay? Understand, Josh, that this is
16 an internal affairs interview, and that your statement is
17 going to be compelled as part of your condition of
18 employment. That's what -- what we have to do.
19 The contents of this interview, however, will
20 not be shared in any form with the criminal
21 investigators. You can talk to your attorney alone at
22 any time. If you feel like you need to do that, the
23 three of us will get up and we will take our recording
24 devices with us, and you have this room for as long as
25 you need.

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You can ask questions. And there's going to
2 be a space at the end for any questions you have.
3 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Got you.
4 LT. SANDERS: Now, this is a key, here, I
5 can't remember and I don't know are very legitimate
6 answers, okay? If -- there's no shame there. What we
7 don't want is what you -- probably have already been told
8 by your attorney is please do not try to guess or just
9 fill in any memory gaps with information you don't know
10 as a fact.
11 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Okay.
12 LT. SANDERS: Now, understand that as part of
13 an IA investigation we have to audio record it, which is
14 being done. You'll note that Sergeant Benzon also has a
15 recording device, that's only because believe it or not,
16 failures occur with equipment.
17 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Backup plan.
18 LT. SANDERS: So. Now, before we go into the
19 actual interview itself, I just need to ascertain some
20 foundational information. Now, can you describe any of
21 the recording devices in your vehicle? And were they
22 activated?
23 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yes.
24 LT. SANDERS: What -- what have you got?
25 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Meaning, like, what

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1 devices?
2 LT. SANDERS: Yeah. What equipment?
3 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So when I activate my
4 emergency lights --
5 LT. SANDERS: Like an arbitrator. Is that
6 what you have?
7 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yeah. It automatically
8 activates the dash cam.
9 LT. SANDERS: Right. But I'm just asking,
10 you do have an arbitrator, and you do have a body cam
11 assigned to you?
12 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yes. Yep.
13 LT. SANDERS: Both?
14 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Both.
15 LT. SANDERS: Okay.
16 And then, do you know if those were
17 activated?
18 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yes, they were.
19 LT. SANDERS: Okay. And so you had -- you
20 were wearing the body cam?
21 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yes.
22 LT. SANDERS: Okay. And then, we don't have
23 access to any of that stuff, but let me ask you, did you
24 review any video or photographic footage of the incident
25 once you left?

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1 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: From the body --
2 LT. SANDERS: This incident.
3 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: From the body cam and the
4 dash cam?
5 LT. SANDERS: Yeah. From body cam, dash cam,
6 somebody's cell phone?
7 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: We -- I did have -- II
8 located something on KSL, and I -- I did watch a
9 video from that.
11 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So...
12 LT. SANDERS: And that leads into my last
13 question here before we move into this: Have you read
14 any articles, comment sections, or viewed or posted any
15 information to social media regarding this incident?
16 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: No.
17 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Thank you.
18 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: You said just have I
19 read anything?
20 LT. SANDERS: Right.
21 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yes. I -- so I have
22 read. I have not posted anything about it.
23 LT. SANDERS: Okay. What did you read?
24 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Pretty much just the
25 headline of the -- that the suspect was named.

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2 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So.. .
3 LT. SANDERS: All right. And that was
4 what -- what source?
5 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I -- I don't remember for
6 sure.
7 LT. SANDERS: And you had mentioned KSL
8 before, was --
9 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yeah. That's what I
10 would -- that's what I'm thinking is it was KSL.
11 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Good.
12 All right, well, the next question well,
13 not question, but the next step is I've got to read you a
14 Garrity Warning.
15 Now, understand that this is actually us
16 formally compelling your statement, okay? So don't read
17 too much into -- what it is is the basic thing just
18 protecting you from criminal prosecution from any of your
19 statements, and then we're -- basically forcing you to
20 talk to us.
22 LT. SANDERS: So I'll just read it out loud.
23 IA2018-005 West Jordan Police Department Administrative
24 Investigation. You are being questioned as part of an
25 official administrative investigation of the West Jordan

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Police Department. This inquiry pertains to the use of
2 deadly force.
3 The purpose of this interview is to obtain
4 information which will assist in determining whether
5 administrative action is warranted. You'll be asked
6 questions specifically directly and narrowly related to
7 the performance of your official duties or fitness for
8 office.
9 Garrity Statement: You have a duty to reply
lo to these questions. Department disciplinary action,
11 including dismissal, may be undertaken if you refuse to
12 answer or fail to reply fully and truthfully. Any
13 information or evidence gained in this interview shall
14 not be used against you in a criminal proceeding.
15 However, the information may be used in a subsequent
16 internal department discipline.
17 It asks for an acknowledgment here. I've
18 already written my name and signed it. I need you to
19 print your name and give your signature where it
20 requests.
21 Now, Josh, I'm going to be asking you some
22 questions here regarding your employment and so on, and
23 I'll just give you -- just so there's no surprises for
24 you.

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1 LT. SANDERS: What -- what you can expect out
2 of this interview.
4 LT. SANDERS: I'm going to be asking you
5 about your basic employment information. You're going to
6 kind of feel like, Whoa, geez, you know, I work here.
7 You should all know that. This is really for the record.
9 LT. SANDERS: Okay? Then I'm going to ask
10 you to give us your free recall, is what it's called.
12 LT. SANDERS: It's just basically your story
13 without interruptions. Just to start to finish, your
14 story and what you remember.
16 LT. SANDERS: Again, if you don't recall
17 something, just -- just say so.
19 LT. SANDERS: After that, I'm going to -- as
20 you can see here, I've got this really nice thing I'm
21 going to have you mark up, and just give me a diagram,
22 and kind of talk through what we're seeing --

24 LT. SANDERS: -- and just get some
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1 questions that I suspect an awful lot of that is going to
2 be answered just with your statement, but some of it,
3 again, is going to seem a little bit redundant.
4 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Some clarification.
5 LT. SANDERS: Just so can make sure we get
6 it.
8 LT. SANDERS: So any questions?
9 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: This is mine, I'm I
10 assuming?
11 LT. SANDERS: Yes.
12 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
14 LT. SANDERS: And hopefully it's not solid --
15 frozen solid --
16 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: No, we're good.
17 LT. SANDERS: -- like the other one we had.
18 And also as you're answering these,
19 understand that there's no hurry.
21 LT. SANDERS: Just take your time.
22 Okay. Josh, can you tell me what your date
23 of employment is?
24 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: It was November of 2007.
25 LT. SANDERS: Okay. What's your current

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1 officer. I was assigned to West Hills Middle School for
2 approximately two and a half years. And then from --
3 from West Hills Middle School I went to Copper Hills High
4 School for approximately another two and a half years.
5 So a total of five years, approximately, in the -- in the
6 juvenile unit.
7 I went from the juvenile unit to my current
8 spot, into the motor unit, and I've been there for I want
9 to say it's -- and I -- I -- I could be wrong on my math,
10 but I want to say that it's been three years that I've
11 been on the motor unit as of June. So the end of the
12 school year is when I left the -- the -- Copper Hills.
13 Motor unit for my current time, and that's
14 about it.
15 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Can you talk to us a
16 little bit about your training history and any
17 significant certification you have?
18 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So through being in the
19 schools, I did the FIT training and -- with interviewing
20 children for child abuse and --
21 LT. SANDERS: What does FIT stand for?
22 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Forensic Interview
23 Training.
25 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: And that's the -- that's

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1 the basis that we use in the -- when we're interviewing
2 victims of child abuse.
3 And then we -- that was really one of the
4 main ones there. I did child death investigation
5 training. I did an SRO training as, you know, going into
6 the school resource program. And then being a -- in the
7 motor unit, I did the motor training. I -- you know,
8 LASER, LiDAR, doing -- man, I'm trying to remember. I
9 apologize.
10 That's really all I can really think of right
11 now for my -- for training wise. Doing, obviously, the
12 police academy and -- I'm actually -- some of my part
13 time stuff I go and teach at the Salt Lake Community
14 College training academy and also the POST academy for --
15 as for education, I have an associates degree through
16 Dixie State College, and I'm in my last semester for Utah
17 Valley University for my criminal justice degree. So I
18 think all those are, you know -- never stop learning.
19 I -- I think that's -- that's all I can
20 really think of as of right now.
21 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Thank you.
22 Were you on or off duty during this incident?
23 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I was on duty.
24 LT. SANDERS: Okay. And when did you -- if
25 you were on duty, when did you last work that shift?

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1 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Tell -- tell me what you
2 mean by that. Sorry.
3 LT. SANDERS: Basically, were you working a
4 regular on-duty shift?
5 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Oh, yeah. Yes. My
6 regular.
7 LT. SANDERS: Okay. When did you work a
regular on-duty shift prior to that day?
9 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So that would have been
10 the last -- last Thursday before that. So -- and I -- I
11 actually went home a little early just to start the
12 Memorial Day weekend a little early.
14 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So...
15 LT. SANDERS: Then how long have you worked
16 that particular shift? Your regular shift?
17 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So I began the -- it's my
18 motor shift. I started the Monday through Thursday ones,
19 I believe it was when Denice Vincent left the motor unit
20 that that opened that slot for the 6:00 to 4:00. So
21 6:00 a.m. to 1600 is my regular shift, so...
22 LT. SANDERS: Then can you just explain your
23 general shift routine? Do you dress? Do you come to
24 work? Talk to us about what your routine is.
25 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yeah. So my -- I've got

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1 a couple different uniforms, and I was wearing my full --
2 my patrol Class B uniform that day, the dark tops and
3 dark bottoms, and actual, you know, breast badge. And my
4 name plate. My body camera up on my left shoulder, and
5 my -- just my regular leather duty belt.
6 LT. SANDERS: Okay. And what's your routine?
7 You came to work. Did you --
8 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: It was -- for the most
9 part it was actually a relatively quiet day traffic wise.
10 I tried to keep myself available for -- available for any
11 accidents that might come out. And it was actually a
12 pretty mellow day in that manner, so...
14 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Typically just come in,
15 come grab my -- I think I actually had my body camera
16 that day already, but that would be my routine is coming
17 in, getting my body camera, suiting that up, and if I've
18 got reports from the previous day or, you know, week or
19 whatever it may be, I get caught up on those. So...
20 Then, as a motor unit, my first
21 responsibility is to enforce the traffic laws, and then
22 the -- and traffic accidents as my secondary when there's
23 not a traffic unit available. So as for -- it was kind
24 of limited that day with -- and I know Sergeant Nunley
25 was off that day, you know -- things like that. So

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1 that's why I just tried to keep myself available.
2 LT. SANDERS: Thank you. So fast forward a
3 little bit to Monday, and this incident occurs.
4 Just tell us your recollection of that --
6 LT. SANDERS: -- and what occurred.
7 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So I was at Station 54.
8 I heard the call come out over the radio. I actually --
9 my mind went directly to Steve Hutchings because I knew
10 who -- he was doing a seatbelt shift, or, you know, I --
11 I -- I'm pretty confident it was a seatbelt shift. It
12 was either that or a traffic shift.
13 But he -- he was in the area of Dixie Valley,
14 and so I -- my mind went to him thinking Hutch is going
15 to be there quick. Because he's kind of already down in
16 that area and had been making traffic stops, and that's
17 how -- you know, down in that Dixie area that day.
18 So I started towards that way. There were
19 two officers already running code in that direction, but
20 they were actually -- I don't remember exactly where they
21 called out at, but when I got to 90th and 56, I actually
22 saw the two -- those two units running code at that point
23 on the Mountain View Corridor, and they went northbound.
24 So as I'm listening to it, start to kind of,
25 you know, develop and unfold over the radio with Hutch,

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1 Hutch -- so I think I kind of skipped some.
2 So I'm -- my -- my suspicion was right.
3 heard Hutch call out that he was either in the area or
4 arriving at the 7/11, and then he came on the radio a
5 short time later and said that the description was -- is
6 that the suspect, according to the dispatch, was, the
7 suspect brandished a weapon during a robbery at the 7/11
8 at Dixie and 6200 South.
9 So when Hutch got there, he -- and the -- the
10 description was is that he -- that the suspect left on
11 foot, westbound on 6200 South. So when Hutch got in the
12 area, he said -- I remember him saying I'm going to go
13 ahead and check westbound from here.
14 So I don't remember anything after he said
15 that for a second. And then I remember him saying that
16 he -- he would be out with the suspect, which raised my
17 alertness or, you know, knowing that the -- the
18 description was that the suspect was armed.
19 I don't remember the verbiage that Hutch was
20 using as soon as he started making sure the other units
21 were coming, but I -- I continued north on 5600 West.
22 Once he -- I -- and again, I -- like I said, I don't
23 remember what verbiage he was using right away indicating
24 that things -- I could hear his voice was elevated and
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1 compliant situation at that point. That Hutch was having
2 difficulty.
3 So at that point, I stayed off the radio. I
4 didn't -- I did not call out my location for the fact
5 that I wanted to leave the air open for Hutch. But I did
6 start running lights and sirens at that point. Knowing
7 that the other two units that hadn't -- that I initially
8 saw an Mountain View going northbound, I started
9 wondering what -- what route would they take and which
10 route would be the fastest to get to Hutch?
11 At -- I don't remember where I was at when I
12 started hearing Hutch asking, Where are my units? And
13 I -- I did get on the radio and I assured Hutch that we
14 were coming. I wanted him to make sure that I -- that he
15 knew. That's what I would want in a situation like that.
16 That I know that we're trying to leave the radio alone,
17 but at the same time I went wanted him to make sure he
18 knew that me were coming.
19 So I did -- I said -- I got on the radio and
20 said -- I don't remember if I called him by name, but I
21 want to say I did, Hutch, we're on our way. Everybody
22 stay off the radio.
23 So I -- I noticed -- so as I'm coming up to
24 56 and 7800 South, I noticed that those two units that I
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1 78th now, and I'm coming north towards 78th. And I -- I
2 had a little bit of distance ahead of them, meaning I
3 reached the intersection before they did.
4 And so I'm thinking in my mind, if I go east
5 on 7800 South, and then I'm going to make a north turn to
6 go left on Airport, that would be a faster route instead
7 of going all the way to 62 and then east to get to Hutch,
8 which the location was 6200 South and 40th West-ish in
9 that vicinity.
10 So I make the right-hand turn, and I'm
11 like I said, I'm going lights and sirens. At some point
12 someone got on the air and said, you know -- pretty much,
13 like, asking -- I don't remember the verbiage, but it
14 was, Hey, give us an update. I want to say it was Reese,
15 lieutenant Reese. So he -- you know, where's he at?
16 Kind of give us an updated location.
17 And as -- I remember -- I don't remember at
18 what point he told over the air that he was wearing -- or
19 number one, that he was 1088, that he had a gun, and that
20 he was standing by a red car right there an 62 and
21 40th-ish.
22 So at -- at -- a short time later, and I may
23 have my -- those -- that radio verbiage backwards,
24 meaning from Reese to Morgan Andres coming over the radio
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1 said -- he called it a 1033 for Hutch. And -- do you
2 understand what I mean? So between Morgan and -- and
3 getting that update of the suspect's location is what I
4 was trying to get at. So I don't know which one of those
5 came first. I want to say it was Reese. First, and then
6 Andres's second.
7 So 1033. I remember as I'm going, and I'm
8 hearing Hutch's voice, I could tell there's something
9 wrong, obviously. I am familiar with Hutch. I know he's
10 a well trained officer, who I respect. And knowing --
11 and hearing that fear and excitement in his voice, I
12 I personally, in my mind,
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15 And I know that's irrelevant to you guys, but
16 to me, I did not want to see something happen to Hutch at
17 that point, obviously. Or at any point.
18 So I -- you know, I can tell somebody as
19 experienced as Hutch is, and hearing his voice on the --
20 you know, asking where his units are, that -- that had
21 had me very concerned about the situation. So...
22 So I get to 6200 South and Airport Road, and
23 I make the right-hand turn to go east on 6200 South, and
24 I -- I saw that there's -- there is traffic -- you know,
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1 compared to what we had seen with it being the holiday.
2 I'm saying a lot more people on the road, and
3 some are yielding and some are just -- you know, I
4 don't -- I don't remember specifics on how many cars
5 there were or anything like that, but I know that, you
6 know, it's -- 6200 South is a pretty busy road as it is.
7 So I'm coming east, and I see the vehicle,
8 you know -- other officers stacking up just east of the
9 Center Park Drive intersection. And I don't remember,
10 you know, how far east, you know, that -- that distance
11 between 40th and -- and Center Park, I'm not going to
12 guesstimate on distances or anything like that, but
13 somewhere in there is where I saw the officers start
14 you know, that's where they were stopping and having more
15 distance between them and the -- and the suspect.
16 So as I'm pulling up, I pulled my side arm.
17 And I'm left-handed, so I -- as I'm stopping the car,
18 putting it in park, I pulled my side arm thinking I need
19 to be ready because the suspect's armed. Not -- not
20 knowing what his demeanor is at that point, but knowing
21 that he's not compliant with Hutch.
22 So as soon as I realized, though, how far
23 away from my truck to the suspect I am, I put my handgun
24 back in my holster, and go for my AR-15, my rifle and
25 the -- and it's locked. So I -- I get my AR-15 out, and

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1 I'm, you know -- I -- I don't remember the sequence of --
2 of how I -- you know, putting the sling on and things
3 like that, or getting my rear sights up and things like
4 that, but I --
5 So I started approaching east and now I can
6 see the suspect off to the -- so as I'm coming east, I'm
7 looking to the right, which would be on the south side of
8 6200 South. And, like I'd mentioned before, a red car
9 was mentioned, and that's where the -- you know, the
10 suspect was in the vicinity of that red car.
11 So I look over there and I see a -- you know,
12 who I'd identify based off the description is the suspect
13 wearing black clothing, and I'm seeing initially his
14 hands are down by his side, but then I look over at him,
15 and he's pointing his gun to the north of where other
16 officers are at.
17 And so in my mind, I'm going down a
18 compliance test, thinking, Okay, Hutch has gotten from
19 this point to this point, and whatever -- I don't know
20 what happened, obviously, 100 percent, but I know he's
21 noncompliant, and Hutch was away from his truck.
22 So if his truck was over here by the
23 sidewalk, Hutch is over here. I don't remember if he was
24 behind cover or not, but I just --- I remember looking
25 over and seeing Hutch to the north of -- like northeast

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1 of his truck. Or excuse me, northwest of his truck. So
2 in his -- and the suspect is standing, now, at the front
3 of Hutch's truck. And I know that it's Hutch's truck
4 because of the K-9 stuff and the K-9 decals on his truck.
5 So as he -- the suspect is -- like I told
6 you, he's pointing his gun over at -- at the officers to
7 my -- further to the east, and I -- I anticipated
8 waiting -- thinking that someone was going to shoot him
9 at that point. And I was not in a position at that
10 point, as I knew there were officers up ahead of me, and
11 my distance was pretty, you know, long, like I explained.
12 So I remember there were sirens still --
13 there were still sirens in the background. And I
14 remember I turned to my left, kind of diagonal behind me
15 and that was a female -- I -- I know her. I actually
16 handled a really minor officer-involved traffic accident
17 with her. And so I'd -- you know, I don't know her name,
18 but I made that -- that relation, or whatever you want to
19 call that between me and her knowing, Oh, hey, that's --
20 she's with UPD, and I took an accident for her.
21 I turned around, and it sounded like the
22 siren was coming from her car, so I yelled -- and she was
23 stopped and she was out of her car, and I yelled to her,
24 Turn off your siren. I wanted to -- in my mind I wanted
25 to -- if we're giving commands to the suspect, I want to

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1 make sure that the suspect can hear us. So I yelled back
2 to her, Turn off your siren. And I knew that she was, at
3 that point behind me and to my -- off to the left-ish.
4 I -- I -- it sounded like there were sirens
5 coming from my right also, and that's where Troy Leery
6 was at. And I turned to Troy and I said, Troy turn off
7 your siren. Still with that anticipation we need -- if
8 we're giving out commands we want to make sure that we
9 can -- that he can hear us.
10 As we -- at -- I don't remember at that point
11 if -- who turned off their siren or, you know -- anyway.
12 At -- at that point, I remember seeing the suspect go
13 from that front left corner of Hutch's truck more toward
14 the driver's side of the truck. And I saw the -- the
15 suspect get into the truck.
16 So again, like I said, I'm -- I'm thinking
17 compliance test. He is not compliant, he's pointed the
18 gun at officers. And at that point, he got in. And then
19 a short time later, he started driving in my direction.
20 I'm thinking -- I mean, he -- he -- the truck is moving
21 fast. He's -- he's coming west swiftly.
22 And I'm thinking in my mind, he's either
23 going to hit me, another officer, or, as I am still
24 considering the fact that he has a gun, and that he very
25 well could shoot me through the windshield or from the

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1 side window --
2 And so as he's coming west, there's car -- I
3 don't remember how the cars were set up, but he veers to
4 his right. And I'm still thinking -- at that point
5 I'm -- I'm thinking someone's going to get hurt,
6 somebody's going to get seriously hurt or someone's going
7 to die. He's going to do something based off of his
8 noncompliance at that point that's not going to end well.
9 And so as he's coming, he veers to the right,
10 and I'm thinking -- I don't remember the distance between
11 he and I at that point, or me and the truck, but I'm
12 thinking at that point, shoot. I don't remember if it
13 was my safety, or if I had not charged my gun. I'm going
14 to leave it at that just because of that unknown. But my
15 determination and my fear at that point was, as he's in
16 front of me, I'm thinking, again, I need to stop him
17 before he hurts someone.
18 And so as he starts to come to my left, I --
19 I -- I don't want to guess whether it was the charge or
20 the safety, but as he came to my left, I fired twice into
21 the side. And I'm -- in addition to the thinking about
22 the fact that he could either shoot me through the
23 windshield or through that side window because he did
24 start to veer to the -- to his right or to the north, I'm
25 thinking I -- I --

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1 That female UPD officer back diagonal to my
2 left, you know, I -- I realized that this was still --
3 he -- he didn't -- he ended up not coming at me, like
4 directly at me to hit me with his truck, but I'm still
5 thinking -- I remember thinking, how many civilians did I
6 just pass as I'm coming in on the west -- from the west
7 to the east on 6200 South, and I'm thinking of the --
8 I heard -- faced the female UPD officer's
9 face was in my mind also, that she was in danger also.
10 And so as he comes to my left, I -- like I said, it was
11 either the safety or the charge -- charging my my
12 AR-15, I shot twice into the -- the cab of the truck.
13 The truck continued at a high rate of speed
14 going west, and it -- and it seemed like at that point I
15 couldn't -- I don't want to speculate on if the truck was
16 corrected at all, or what his alignment was, but I know
17 that -- I know that he -- that -- the suspect in Hutch's
18 truck actually hit another West Jordan truck, and that
19 was my main --
20 I thought it was actually my truck because of
21 my recent accidents. Thinking that that was my truck
22 that he had just hit. And so -- and then a short time
23 later, after hitting that West Jordan truck, the -- the
24 truck then crashed with -- I -- I -- a white passenger
25 car, head on, to our west.

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A I< P
1 So I -- the -- everything transitioned from
2 that -- from looking east on 6200 South to now looking
3 west. And as I came up, I am now focused on the cab of
4 the truck, and I'm -- I don't see any movement. Officers
5 are also shifting with us. And as we -- as we're kind of
6 out there standing, we -- our cover is kind of gone at
7 that point.
8 And so I don't know whose -- whose West
9 Jordan police car it was -- it was a car. But I said,
10 bring -- somebody grab -- get in that car and bring it
11 up, and -- and position it. I don't remember how I told
12 them to position it, but I wanted it on an angle so that
13 we could take cover behind the car so that we had some
14 kind of a barrier behind Hutch's truck, now, where the
15 suspect is, the West Jordan police car and that's exactly
16 what we did. We stacked up behind that West Jordan
17 police car.
18 We got behind cover, and at that point I
19 remember Shepherd being right there in front of me,
20 kneeling down at the hood of the truck, or excuse me of
21 the hood of the car, and everybody's focus is now on
22 that -- on the truck. I remember seeing -- we had -- my
23 concern continued for the civilians that were up here to
24 the west of us -- even further west of Hutch's truck in
25 the intersection there.

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1 And I'm seeing, you know, they had their
2 video cameras out or phones or whatever they were, and
3 I -- my concern now is crossfire for the civilians. So
4 I'm yelling for them to -- to move and get away. I know
5 that Tracy and a UPD officer were over to our left, our
6 immediate left but off into the field.
7 And at that point, we had another team --
8 another group of officers stacking up to my right side.
9 Behind cover. And they -- I -- we made sure to convey
10 that Hey, we've got officers over in this field, watch
11 your crossfire. You know, everybody's making sure that
12 everybody's on the same page.
13 And then as we're standing behind cover, they
14 start talking less lethal to get into the passenger's
15 side of the truck. And I remember Troy Leery saying, you
16 know I don't remember if he asked me specifically or
17 just in general, but he said, Try and get -- try and
18 capture that driver's side window with a video of some
19 sort just the case we had to take it out with the less
20 lethal, take out that window.
21 And so I actually took my body camera and
22 held it up in the direction -- I took it from my shoulder
23 here just to make sure that we got some kind of video
24 coverage -- you know, video footage of -- of that -- of
25 the -- of Hutch's truck. And I -- at that point, I

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1 could -- you know, or even before that I could see that
2 there was a bullet hole in the -- in the driver's side.
3 I don't know how many there were, but I know that there
4 was one for sure.
5 So I don't know the -- I couldn't tell from
6 my standpoint of how they were doing what the less
7 lethal. If they were actually -- it took multiple shots
8 on the less lethal to -- to penetrate to window. And
9 again, I don't know if he actually -- I -- I don't know
10 if we actually shattered the window ever.
11 But I can -- you know, they would -- they
12 would kind of give a warning before, less lethal. Less
13 lethal would go, and I would see that rubber -- or
14 whatever that's made out of bullet bounce on the ground
15 from that point.
16 Still no movement in the truck. And we
17 had -- I don't remember -- I don't remember who -- if we
18 kept a shield over on the right side, but I remember
19 Morgan Andres came over to our left side. So now we had
20 two shields on the left side before we made any attempt
21 to move up.
22 I know -- you know, and our concern, too,
23 was -- was Hutch making sure that he -- that his dog was
24 still in the truck. And so as we moved forward with the
25 shields, I stayed on the left side of the -- the shield

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1 on the right because I'm left-handed and that felt
2 comfortable. And I remember just keeping my focus on
3 that, and also watching my muzzle to make sure I didn't
4 cover somebody as he moved up.
5 As we moved up to that left side, Hutch came
6 up and retrieved his dog. He went back, and then Hutch
7 came back forward again. And we didn't know if the
8 suspect was -- again, no movement. So we're still
9 concerned for our officers' safety at that point, knowing
10 that he has a gun.
11 And so he actually brought his dog back up
12 and attempted to -- I don't know what you would call it.
13 Maybe a compliance test to see if we can continue to move
14 up. So the dog actually went up. I didn't see if he bit
15 him or anything like that, but there was still no
16 movement from the -- the only movement that we had at
17 that point was the dog.
18 Steve brought his dog back -- Hutch brought
19 his dog back, and then another K-9 officer brought his
20 dog up, and again, attempted, you know -- again, I don't
21 know what to call that. Just to see if -- if it was safe
22 for the human officers to move forward. And again,
23 still, there was no -- there was no movement in the
24 truck.
25 So that officer brought his dog back, and

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1 then we moved forward. And I remember seeing -- I'm
2 behind Shepherd still at that point, and I remember
3 Shepherd reached forward into the truck, and I could see
4 a decent amount of blood on the suspect. The suspect
5 looked like he was up out of the seat, meaning -- and
6 I -- you know, probably from the impact. That he was up
7 out of the seat and that I could see, just on the left
8 side, I don't know what I was even looking at on his
9 body, but there's a decent amount of blood right there on
10 his left side.
11 And then, again, still no movement. No -- I
12 remember I gave commands -- and I'm going to kind of back
13 up. I apologize.
14 So when we first stacked up and were focused
15 on that truck, I gave a command, Police. Don't move.
16 Not knowing the outcome of -- you know, or the condition
17 of the suspect. So then back -- moving forward, I
18 remember Shepherd checked to see if there was any kind of
19 a pulse. There was a question if we were checking the
20 right location, if we had a good spot, but, again, still
21 no -- still no movement.
22 There was -- and then I remember Shepherd
23 bringing his hand back and he had blood on his hand. He
24 had a glove on, but it was on his -- on his glove. And
25 as soon as we called for fire to come up to our location,

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1 I remember hearing someone ask that there only be one
2 fire -- one firefighter come up to the -- to the area.
3 And -- just to make sure if there was any chance at
4 saving -- doing any life-saving procedures at that point.
5 So I remember seeing Shepherd take his glove
6 off, and he had -- and the blood had gone through his
7 hand, so he did have some blood on his actual thumb.
8 We kind of came back away from the truck, and
9 I remember Lieutenant Reese -- I dont remember -- you
10 know -- I remember kind of doing a -- a check -- doing a
11 public safety check of -- he wanted to know who fired.
12 was timid at that point to -- not the fact that I fired,
13 but for the fact that I didn't want to make a 5th
14 Amendment admission in front of anybody not having been
15 in this type of a scenario before, personally.
16 I raised my hand when he asked who fired, and
17 he didn't see me at that point. That I -- that I had
18 fired. We kind of gathered in a little bit closer and
19 I -- I think, actually I asked Lieutenant Reese, Hey, can
20 I turn off my body camera? He said, Yes. I deactivated
21 my body camera.
22 And again, so we -- we kind of grouped up
23 again. He asked who fired. I remember that Shepherd
24 said that he fired, and then and I kind of had to
25 double confirm that he saw me raise my hand, and I made

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1 it known to him that I had fired also.
2 Talking to Lieutenant Reese a little bit more
3 on the public safety portion of it, I explained that I
4 was standing, you know, more to the south side of 6200
5 South, more in the -- not more to the south. I'll say
6 more to the -- in the eastbound traffic lanes. Somewhere
7 in that vicinity. And that the suspect passed me on my
8 left, and that I fired two shots onto the left side. My
9 left side and the driver's side -- left side.
10 So on the public safety side of that, that's
11 where we -- we made sure that, you know, any kind of
12 welfare check that needed to be done over on that side,
13 and that's -- that's what I remember about, kind of that
14 initial debrief.
15 We then -- I remember -- Officer Shaff came
16 up and did a great job on making sure that we're kind of
17 secluded and -- and not -- you know, he -- he -- he's
18 asking who do you want to get paired up with? Things
19 like that. I -- I think -- I wanted -- it sounds bad.
20 I'm pretty sure his name is Officer Clark. I got paired
21 up with Clark to ensure that, you know, that we're
22 together and not standing there by ourselves.
23 And we start talking about leaving the scene
24 and going to the hospital. Marisha Mansano was there
25 with her unmarked car, and we initially had come up to

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1 the idea of everybody piling into that car and going down
2 to the hospital.
3 I left my AR-15 as it was. I didn't -- the
4 only thing -- I just made sure that it was on safe at
5 that point, and I put it in the trunk of Marisha's
6 unmarked car. And also Shepherd put his rifle back
7 there, too.
8 We kind of stood around and waited. Marisha
9 kind of got busy doing something else, and I asked Reese
10 if we could get going to the hospital. And then I ended
11 up going from there -- from -- from the scene with Tracy
12 Williams and Officer Clark -- Officer Clark sat in the
13 back seat and I sat in the front seat of Officer
14 Williams's car, and we drove to Jordan Valley Hospital,
15 where I was evaluated.
16 I think that's -- I think that's about it.
17 I -- I've been replaying the whole scenario in my mind.
18 I have confidence in my choice to fire those two shots.
19 Like I said before, I -- that compliance test that I
20 thought of as I -- as I got there, and as it -- the fact
21 that he got into the truck and stole it -- he had
22 already -- I knew that he had already pulled a weapon
23 during the robbery.
24 I'd seen him point that gun over to those
25 officers on my left side. And so I -- you know, I'm

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1 thinking -- I'm thinking he's committed a felony. I'm
2 thinking he -- the compliance is not there. The speeds
3 were -- you know, he -- he took off very quickly, which
4 intimidated me and scared me, knowing that those officers
5 were to my rear and also to the civilians that were back
6 there.
7 And I -- I -- I truly believe that if action
8 had not been taken, that he would have seriously injured
9 someone or killed somebody with his speeds, or with the
10 fact that he had a handgun. He's a fleeing felon. He --
11 he had absolutely no regard for whatever commands Hutch
12 had already given him, and that concerned me.
13 I was -- you know, like I told you, he's
14 either going to ram me with his truck, or with Hutch's
15 truck, or he's going to shoot me through the windshield
16 or as soon as he gets to the side of me, and that's why I
17 did what I did. So.
18 I think that's it. I -- sorry. That's a
19 loft of information. You know? Yeah. I think that's
20 it.
21 LT. SANDERS: Thanks, Josh.
22 I know you just gave us all of that there.
23 I've got a Google map printed out here.
25 LT. SANDERS: Is that -- in your estimation,

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1 a --
2 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Can I take it?
3 LT. SANDERS: Accurate representation --
4 yeah, you can take it. An accurate representation of the
5 location? You'll note on, right here, I've got a
6 separate -- this is an exact copy, that's 3957, which is
7 where I understand the truck was located. Somewhere
8 right in there.
OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Okay.
10 LT. SANDERS: Hutch's truck. That's all I
11 know from that. So just giving you that as a reference.
12 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Okay. So I'm going to
13 put it like this.
15 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Right? This is -- this
16 is north. Am I looking at that correctly?
17 LT. SANDERS: Correct.
18 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Do you care if I write on
19 here?
20 LT. SANDERS: Yeah. I was going to have you
21 do that. Use this marker. Let's slide this paper
22 underneath so it doesn't bleed through onto the table.
24 LT. SANDERS: But if you can kind of diagram
25 what what you saw. What happened.

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2 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you want to have him,
3 before we forget, just put his name and --
4 LT. SANDERS: Oh, yeah. Thank you.
5 Have your -- put your name up here.
7 LT. SANDERS: And then I, also, at the
8 bottom, need you to write in there that this is -- just
9 write, "Not to scale." And understand, we are not
10 exactly expecting this to be, you know, completely
11 accurate. I mean, be as accurate as you can.
13 LT. SANDERS: But was realize that you're
14 going to be off a little bit --
15 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Right.
16 LT. SANDERS: -- on exact measurements and so
17 on, but do your best.
18 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Okay. So with this
19 being -- okay. I just want to make sure I'm looking at
20 this right. So...
21 LT. SANDERS: So orient it the way you need
22 to.
23 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Okay. And I'm going to
24 turn it this way, just for the fact that that's the
25 direction that I came in from on 6200 South. So this

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1 being on the west side, and, like I said, I -- I came
2 from Station 54.
3 LT. SANDERS: And for the recording,
4 you're -- you've got east up.
5 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Right. East is --
6 LT. SANDERS: In the up position.
7 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: -- is pointing on the
8 upwards side.
10 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I've rotated it so it is
11 not I'm looking at numbers sideways on the 6200 South
12 side.
14 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So I've got -- so as I
15 come in here, I come from the west. I get through --
16 this is Center Park. This all right that I'm writing
17 on --
18 LT. SANDERS: Yes.
19 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: -- and that's no -- okay.
20 Center Park Drive.
21 LT. SANDERS: And then what I'm looking for
22 specifically is more where you were in relative -
23 relatively to the threat and people and so on --
25 LT. SANDERS: -- etc.

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1 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So as I come through
2 here, I come through the intersection. I get to the east
3 side of the intersection, and I park my truck in these
4 eastbound lanes. I don't think I was that -- it's not
5 that deep. I apologize. I'm going to cross that out.
6 Put my name -- or I'm just going to initial that.
7 So I got -- again, I don't -- distances are
8 kind of getting to me right here. Especially with it not
9 being to scale. So -- but I do -- I'm in the east -- I'm
10 in the eastbound lanes. And I kind of park my truck
11 canted a little bit, and like I explained before, Troy
12 Leery's over here.
13 I don't remember I don't remember -- I
14 want -- I'm actually going to cross that out, too. I
15 don't remember where -- if Troy was behind me or in front
16 of me. And then -- so I exit my truck, get my rifle, and
17 I'm -- so I'm standing right there to my -- and then I
18 remember, I was back behind cover of another vehicle
19 somewhere to this vicinity.
20 The female officer that I mentioned, the UPD
21 officer, her car was back, like I told you, kind of
22 diagonal, left of mine. Is and that's when I -- so I got
23 out of my truck and sirens are going off around us, and
24 it seemed like it was coming from her vehicle. So I
25 turned around and told her -- so she was standing at --

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1 over in the vicinity of her car.
2 So from -- and then the suspect -- and I
3 don't remember exactly -- you -- you kind of identified
4 that house, but I'm not positive on exactly where the --
5 where Hutch's truck was at. Excuse me. And -- but
6 his -- I remember it was on an angle, also. Kind of like
7 that. And then the suspect was standing to the front
8 corner of Hutch's truck.
9 And as I had mentioned before, he was
10 pointing his -- and as I can tell you right now, the
11 distances are screwed up. So he's pointing his weapon -
12 his -- his gun over into that direction of the officers
13 to his to the north.
14 He got in his -- got in -- he went over to
15 the driver's side of the truck, and started coming in our
16 direction -- towards us. And that's where I'm starting
17 to think -- you know, I started thinking the
18 compliance -- a while ago, weighing the fact that he's a
19 felon, as he's pulled a weapon during a robbery.
20 He's coming at me here. I'd actually decided
21 to fire my weapon when he was east of me. I don't -- I
22 don't -- again, it was either my -- I didn't charge it or
23 it was on safety. So as he's passing by here, he did not
24 keep coming straight. He did -- he came to my left. And
25 so I'm standing over in -- in this vicinity.

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1 And as he -- as soon as I got my weapon
2 ready, I'm still thinking, he's either going to shoot me
3 through the wind -- he's either going to hit me, he's
4 going to shoot me through the windshield, or he's going
5 to hit -- he's going to shoot me through that driver's
6 side window as he's passing me. And so as he got to
7 that -- just left of me is when I fired my two shots into
8 the cab of the truck.
9 I don't -- he kept coming -- at that -- you
10 know, we had -- and I don't remember where the police
11 truck was at for the other -- the one that I mentioned
12 that he hit as he continued west, but the -- there was a
13 police truck somewhere in this vicinity.
14 And then he hit that truck, and he hit it
15 he was to the right of the police truck -- of that one,
16 and he hit that -- hit that right side of the -- of the
17 other police truck.
18 So he -- he continues to go this way. At
19 that point I've kind of lost vision of him because of all
20 the vehicles that are up here. And we are -- there was
21 a -- it was a white -- it reminded me of like a Chrysler
22 Labaron, like a white passenger car, that he hit head on.
23 And so that's where he crashed.
24 And I -- I don't remember if it was on -- on
25 this side of the intersection or on that side of the

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1 intersection. I do believe it was over -- I -- I'm
2 pretty confident that it was over here on the west side
3 of the intersection. For the fact that there were other
4 vehicles, there's other random, you know, parked campers
5 and things like that over into this field.
6 And I -- that's where I saw Tracy
7 VanRosendahl -- or excuse me, Tracy Williams and that
8 other UPD officer standing here. Then we -- and that's
9 where our concern was with the one team stacked up on
10 this side. And we were stacked up -- and it was further
11 back. So we we had a vision -- we had a -- I stop
12 me if I'm
13 LT. SANDERS: Well --
14 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: This is bad.
15 LT. SANDERS: Yeah.
16 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I mean, my description on
17 the on the map is not proving any -- you know.
18 Anyway.
19 So the one team's stacked up on the
20 passenger's side of Hutch's truck, after he'd crashed,
21 and we -- that's where I -- I explained that we
22 told the officer to bring his -- his patrol car over to
23 that side, and we stacked up right here. In a stack
24 there.
25 And then that's where we -- we had a -- we

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1 had a vision of the -- I had a view of the driver's side,
2 but I -- I could not -- like I told you, I couldn't see
3 the passenger's side. I couldn't tell if they were
4 making any progress on that -- on that -- on that
5 passenger's side window as they were shooting the -- the
6 less lethal at it.
7 Again, we had civilians up this way that were
8 yelling at them to clear out the way -- to get out of the
9 way so we're not -- we're keeping their safety in mind.
10 And then as Tracy and that UPD officer are over here,
11 we're, you know, making sure that we're all on the same
12 page.
13 I remember Lieutenant Reese at this point,
14 as -- as we know that Tracy's over here and we relayed
15 that information to him -- or to -- yeah -- to Lieutenant
16 Reese, Hey, we've got officers over on that side, he
17 actually asked for Tracy to -- you know, what can you see
18 from that point of view? Can you see any movement? I
19 do -- I think Tracy had a -- this is -- this needs to be
20 further this way.
21 LT. SANDERS: Well, I think we have a pretty
22 good understanding of all that. We're -- we're kind of
23 moving onto the aftermath.
24 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Oh. Okay.
25 LT. SANDERS: We don't need to know

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1 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Oh, I'm sorry.
2 LT. SANDERS: -- (inaudible) at this point
4 LT. SANDERS: So. But I think we have a
5 pretty good understanding. Would you mind just, as best
6 you can, just note which one is your car and which one is
7 you.
9 LT. SANDERS: And then maybe write -- just
10 note which one is Hutch's. Just so that when we look at
11 it later, we understand what we're looking at.
12 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Okay. So this is Hutch's
13 truck. This is -- this is me. This is UPD. And then
14 Troy Leery was to my right. And that's where I don't
15 remember -- he -- he had to have been -- he had to have
16 been ahead of my truck.
17 That -- any other --
18 LT. SANDERS: No. I think that -- maybe -- I
19 see something down at the bottom -- maybe you can just
20 note where the suspect truck
21 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Ended up?
22 LT. SANDERS: -- stopped, ultimately or
23 whatever.
24 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Okay. I do remember
25 after the truck crashed into that white passenger car, I

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1 saw a civilian run to the north of that.
3 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Because I think there was
4 a concern for public safety there at the front of the car
5 after the accident had happened.
7 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: White passenger car. Any
8 other -- I'm going to put Tracy --
10 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: -- okay?
11 LT. SANDERS: I think that's it.
13 LT. SANDERS: I think we've got it. So I'll
14 just take that back from you here.
16 LT. SANDERS: Thank you. All right.
17 I have a few clarifying questions, okay?
19 LT. SANDERS: When you -- you okay to keep
20 going?
21 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Oh, absolutely. No. I'm
22 good.
23 LT. SANDERS: Okay. So we're about an hour
24 into this. Is everybody still okay?
25 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good.

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1 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah.
3 All right. So you've already explained how
4 you got -- the units -- or information you learned about
5 the initial incident. I just need to know how you
6 learned about this. Was it by a police radio? Or --
7 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Of the actual incident?
8 LT. SANDERS: Yeah.
9 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yeah. So it came over --
10 came over the dispatch radio of -- of the armed robbery
11 at the 7-Eleven, and that's where I drew that line of --
12 I knew Hutch was over in Dixie Valley, and they said it
13 was at 62 and Dixie there.
15 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Which I'm familiar with
16 that area, and -- and patrol through there on a regular
17 basis, so...
18 LT. SANDERS: Did you personally know the
19 suspect? Or had you dealt with him in the past?
20 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I -- not of my knowledge.
22 Now, based upon your responding, and I think
23 you already explained this, but just to clarify, when you
24 responded and -- what was your understanding of the
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1 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: It was -- so the initial
2 description was that he had a handgun, and that it was
3 brought out during the -- during the robbery of the
4 7-Eleven. When -- when Hutch called out that he was out
5 with the suspect, and -- over the -- over the course of
6 his radio transmissions of him saying, Where's my units,
7 he's he continued -- he said, "1088, man with a gun."
8 So I -- I still -- and then, like I mentioned
9 before, when I arrived, I could see him pointing the gun
10 over in the direction of the -- of the officers to my --
11 further east, and to his -- to the right of Hutch's
12 truck. And so east of my location.
13 LT. SANDERS: Okay. What is your knowledge
14 of the equipment and weapons available to the suspect
15 once he took "possession of a West Jordan police
16 vehicle"?
17 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I -- I don't know Hutch's
18 specific setup, but just like my truck, where we have
19 either access to an AR-15 or to a shotgun. And also the
20 fact that Hutch's dog was also in the back of -- in his
21 cage, also.
23 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: That concerned me also
24 of -- you know, once the truck is on, you're able to
25 just like I did, you know, once I -- once I put my truck

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1 in park and got out and pushed the button in the middle
2 console, that releases it.
3 There's nothing other -- anything special at
4 that point of -- what can -- you know, what I'm trying to
5 say is the suspect very well can -- and it's usually even
6 labeled. You know, something that -- mine has a
7 picture -- or a diagram of a -- an outline of a pistol.
8 So it -- it doesn't take, you know, much
9 knowledge to figure out, you know, he may give a tug on
10 that -- on that rifle or shotgun, and -- and realize that
11 it is locked and start looking for an alternative way to
12 get that out.
13 But it -- yeah. It's -- it's a click of a
14 button and it unlocks it. So, I mean, he -- he
15 definitely upgraded that -- that handgun to whatever else
16 Hutch had in that -- in the -- in the truck. So...
17 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Now, describe your
18 attire detail. You already said that you were wearing
19 your regular Class B patrol uniform.
20 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Right
21 LT. SANDERS: For the record, will you just
22 describe what that looks like --
23 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Sure.
24 LT. SANDERS: -- briefly.
25 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So I had just my -- my

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1 regular patrol boots, not my motor boots. I was not in
2 my motor attire. It was just slacks, my black patrol
3 boots, my leather duty belt, my dark patrol uniform with
4 my brass badge, and also my name plate on my right side.
5 And also my motor wings just above my name plate.
6 My body camera up on my left shoulder, and
7 that's held in place by a -- a magnet up in that left
8 position -- or left shoulder. On my duty belt I have my
9 firearm on my left side. I have my -- my OC spray just
10 behind my handgun on that left side. On my front right
11 is my two mag pouchs and two extra magazines for my --
12 for my Glock.
13 And then to the -- to the right of that is my
14 Taser. And then to my -- or just to the right of that or
15 behind that is my radio. So --
17 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: -- that's my -- that's
18 what I was wearing that day.
19 LT. SANDERS: Thank you.
20 Did you give any sort of verbal
21 identification?
22 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I only -- when I arrived
23 on scene, I -- my distance was -- I very well -- I have a
24 very loud voice. I could have shouted, but I did not. I
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1 then after the -- the truck had crashed, and we -- we
2 didn't know what was coming next after the crash, I gave
3 a verbal command of, Police, don't move, at that point.
4 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Did you hear any other
5 officer give verbal identification?
6 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I -- I know that they
7 were -- so when we -- I don't -- I don't remember what
8 was being said, but I know that Hutch was yelling out to
9 the suspect during his noncompliance. And then once the
10 truck had crashed, I know that somebody had continued to
11 give commands at that point --
13 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: -- in addition to my,
14 Police don't move.
15 LT. SANDERS: Now, I understand the vehicle's
16 moving, so this is going to be a relative question. So
17 just as best you can, okay?
19 LT. SANDERS: When you fired, how close were
20 you?
21 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I -- from my standpoint
22 it felt very close. We're -- we're talking from from
23 out here to the edge of the table to the wall is
25 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: -- is what I remember.

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1 The left side of that being -- or excuse. The wall being
2 the driver's side of Hutch's truck as it's passing by me.
3 LT. SANDERS: So for the recording, I'm
4 looking at roughly six feet?
5 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yeah. Roughly. I mean,
6 I'm not yeah.
8 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Possibly less, to be --
9 it seemed very close.
10 LT. SANDERS: Now, this will seem strange
11 just because of what's happening, but was there any
12 communication between you and him? Any eye contact or
13 verbal contact?
14 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I just remember -- no.
15 There was not.
16 LT. SANDERS: Okay. And then just to
17 clarify, what -- at that moment, what was the threat
18 level right then?
19 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Of -- when he's passing
20 by me?
21 LT. SANDERS: Uh-huh. And you fired.
22 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: To me it's very -- still
23 high. I mean, we're -- we're still dealing with a
24 fleeing felon. We're dealing with the fact that he has
.25 his own weapon. He now has access to whatever Hutch may

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1 have in that truck, either an AR-15 or an -- or a
2 shotgun. The threat is still very high.
3 My -- I'm -- I'm -- I'm thinking of that
4 female UPD officer behind me. That even though he still
5 did not -- he didn't hit me with the truck, I'm still
6 thinking, she's very likely in danger also. And then
7 we've got the threat of all of the citizens that were to
8 the west of our location, which I passed on my way in.
9 So...
10 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Now, how did the suspect
11 respond to commands from the other officers?
12 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Before or after he fled
13 in the truck?
14 LT. SANDERS: Before.
15 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Before?
16 LT. SANDERS: We're talking before
17 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: He -- the compliance was
18 not there. And that's when I remember going through that
19 mental compliance test of, he's pointing the gun at -- at
20 the officers. He's not complying.
21 And then to the point of him going from the
22 front of the truck over to the -- to the driver's side
23 and actually getting into the driver's side of the truck
24 and -- and taking off, quick.
25 LT. SANDERS: Were there conflicting noises

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1 that would have made it difficult for the suspect to hear
2 police commands?
3 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Well, that's where --
4 that's where my concern was with the sirens. I wanted to
5 try to shut those down as best as we could. So in the
6 long run, yes.
7 But there seemed -- I, again, I don't
8 remember what was being said back and forth between him
9 and Hutch, but I know there was -- there -- I don't know
10 how to phrase that. I -- I know that there was -- that
11 the -- the commands were being given. I just don't know
12 what was being said. I know Hutch was saying something
13 to him.
14 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Did -- did you hear the
15 suspect say anything during the incident?
16 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I could hear him saying
17 something back, but I couldn't make out what he was
18 saying.
19 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Did -- in your
20 estimation, did the suspect appear impaired? Like with
21 drugs or alcohol?
22 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I -- I think my distance
23 was too far away to have -- to have any kind of -- to
24 build any evidence against him on that, from my
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1 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Then he had a gun. Will
2 you describe that to the best of your recollection?
3 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Well, he was wearing all
4 black, and I -- it -- it -- from my standpoint, it
5 appeared to be a black handgun.
6 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Did you recognize the
7 make or model --
9 LT. SANDERS: -- or anything?
10 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: NO.
12 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I was too far away to
13 recognize the -- I could tell it was a gun, but I
14 couldn't tell anything specific about it.
15 LT. SANDERS: Which hand was he holding it
16 in?
17 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I don't remember.
18 LT. SANDERS: Okay. Then -- and -- what
19 weapon or devices did you deploy?
20 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So, like I mentioned
21 before, as I was arriving there on scene, I took into
22 consideration as I'm coming in where all the other police
23 vehicles are kind of stacking up, and so that's where I
24 parked my truck.
25 And I'm thinking and knowing that the

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1 immediate threat was there, I started to pull out my
2 handgun. I looked up and saw how far away Hutch's truck
3 was, and the suspect in -- wearing his all black. And
4 then I put my hand -- I don't even -- I don't even know
5 if I cleared my holster all the way, but I do know that I
6 went to bring it out and then I -- I realized my distance
7 between me and the truck and the suspect, and so I put my
8 handgun away and deployed my AR-15 at that point.
9 LT. SANDERS: And why your rifle?
10 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I'm sorry?
11 LT. SANDERS: Why use -- why did you
12 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Just a greater distance.
13 You know, the handgun is more effective closer to a
14 suspect or within, kind of, that 2S-yard range that we
15 practice at.
16 And then bringing -- bringing that rifle out,
17 we've we've done scenarios and things like that, you
18 know, a couple hundred yards of shooting targets and
19 things like that. So I know my chances were, if I did
20 have to shoot him from further back or to stop the threat
21 at that point, that it would be better for the AR -- the
22 AR-15 to be deployed.
23 Braces and saliva. I apologize.
24 LT. SANDERS: Do you recall -- you know, this
25 is your perception, but do you recall how many rounds you

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1 fired?
2 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Two.
3 LT. SANDERS: Okay. And what was the general
4 timing of it?
5 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Very quick. What we
6 would consider a double tap.
7 LT. SANDERS: Okay. And do you know if the
8 suspect fired his weapon?
9 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I do not. I don't think
10 he did.
11 LT. SANDERS: And then did you perceive that
12 your life was in danger when you fired your weapon?
13 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Absolutely.
14 LT. SANDERS: Did you perceive the lives of
15 others were in danger?
16 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Absolutely.
17 LT. SANDERS: Now, based upon your
18 perception, did anyone else fire their weapon?
19 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I did not know that
20 anybody else had fired their weapon until our public
21 safety -- our public safety debrief immediately after.
23 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: That's where I learned
24 Shepherd did.
25 LT. SANDERS: Then -- and I think you already

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1 described this, but after that debrief, what happened to
2 your weapon? I'm really looking for a chain of custody
3 here.
4 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So I -- it stayed with me
5 up until that point that I put it in the trunk of Marisha
6 Mansano's car. And then shortly after I put my -- mine
7 in the in the trunk, I even left the -- the port -- I
8 didn't even -- I didn't close that port then, you know,
9 out of -- out of habit at the shooting range, I would
10 typically close that port. I wanted to leave my
11 firearm --
12 LT. SANDERS: When you're saying the port,
13 are you talking the dust cover on the rifle -- rifle
14 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Exactly.
16 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: The dust the dust
17 cover. So I left that open, placed it in the trunk of
18 the car.
19 Shepherd came shortly after, put his in, and
20 then after that, I don't know who had it beyond that
21 point -- from that point to the hospital, and then to the
22 point when the UPD officer here at the station brought my
23 rifle in along with Shepherd's.
25 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I don't know who had it

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1 beyond that.
2 LT. SANDERS: Did you alter your weapon or
3 magazines in any way from the condition immediately
4 following the incident?
6 LT. SANDERS: You already -- well, let's see
7 Describe any life-saving efforts you or
8 others took on behalf of the suspect.
9 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Once we -- once we got up
10 to the truck -- like I said, the -- the concern at that
11 point was number 1, is there any officer safety issues at
12 that point? There absolutely was, and that's why we
13 didn't run up to the truck to -- to start the first aid.
14 As soon as we found it to be, you know, safer
15 to move up to the truck with the shields, that's when
16 Shepherd checked for a pull pulse. No pulse was -- we --
17 he couldn't find a pulse, and there -- like I said there
18 was a large amount of blood.
19 That's when, at that point when we felt that
20 the -- the threat was over. Somebody called for the fire
21 department to come up -- and requested just one to -- to
22 check for any life saving that would happen.
23 LT. SANDERS: Thank you.
24 Now, talk a little bit about the environment.
25 What was the weather like that day?

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1 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I remember it being
2 sunny. And I don't -- you know, the sun was out. It was
3 during the day. It was daylight.
4 LT. SANDERS: Do you remember the approximate
5 time of day?
6 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Approximate would be -- I
7 remember before the incident happened, remember looking
8 at my clock, seeing that it was right around 2:00, you
9 know, and thinking, Okay, a couple more hours until the
10 end of my shift. I remember thinking that. So as for
11 what time it actually came out, it was definitely between
12 that 2:00 and 4:00 --
14 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: 2:00 and 4:00 p.m.
15 LT. SANDERS: Were there any obstructions
16 that might have impaired your vision? Foliage?
17 Vehicles? Anything like that?
18 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: At what point? I
19 apologize.
20 LT. SANDERS: Well, and this is -- because
21 it's so big, I --
23 LT. SANDERS: Thank you for asking the
24 clarifying question there.
25 When you arrived on the scene, you -- you

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1 acquired visually acquired the suspect?
2 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Right.
3 LT. SANDERS: Anything in between you and him
4 that would have impaired your vision?
5 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I -- I wouldn't say
6 impaired. It, to me, was either I could see him or I
7 couldn't with all the other police vehicles that were
8 ahead of me. And like I said, that's why I stacked up
9 where I did, not wanting to rush my truck right into
10 harm's way and put myself there.
11 So yes, from where I parked my truck to the
12 suspect, there -- there was some opportunities for line
13 of sight to be obstructed. But at the points that I have
14 talked about, there was no -- you know, I could see him
15 pretty -- pretty clear.
17
19
21 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So outside of that, I
22
23
24 LT. SANDERS: How much sleep did you get
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1 You're mid to late shift, so
2 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yeah. Just a regular
3 night's sleep. I don't remember what time I went to bed
4 the night before.
5 LT. SANDERS: Okay. When was the last time
6 you were trained on the use of deadly force?
7 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: We actually just had a --
8 well, we just did a firearm's qualification with the
9 with the handgun down in Murray. I just did in-service
10 on that.
11 As for the -- I don't remember the last -- I
12 know -- you know, we're not talking years, but I don't
13 remember exactly when the last use of force was -- of
14 training.
15 LT. SANDERS: Okay. When is your -- or what
16 is your understanding of when deadly force is permitted?
17 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Deadly force is permitted
18 when myself or others are in the -- in the line of
19 serious bodily injury or death.
20 LT. SANDERS: When was the last time you
21 qualified with, in this case, your rifle?
22 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Oh. I can picture
23 every -- everybody that was there, but I don't remember a
24 date. It was the last -- and you have multiple ones when
25 it comes to training, so I don't -- I can't tell you an

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exact date or --
2 LT. SANDERS: A time of year that you -
3 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I want -- I want to say
4 it was before -- just before winter of this last year.
6 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Of --
7 LT. SANDERS: 2017?
8 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: 2017.
10 And was the weapon you fired a personal
11 weapon or department owned?
12 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Department.
13 LT. SANDERS: And do you remember what the
14 round capacity of your magazine was?
15 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: You know, I -- I know the
16 answer to that for sure because I remember in the -- in
17 the -- as they're -- UPD when I'm in the brief -- in the
18 conference room down the hall there, they asked me that
19 same question, and I don't -- I didn't remember.
21 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I do now know, you know.
22 I just wanted to make sure I distinguish that. There I
23 learned it was 30.
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know.
2 LT. SANDERS: All right. Do you always fill
3 your magazines to capacity?
4 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: My -- my handguns I do.
5 I I don't on my -- on the rifle.
6 LT. SANDERS: How many rounds do you put in?
7 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Well, and that's -- I
8 learned that -- again, I want to make sure I distinguish
9 that. That I did not know how many I had in there.
10 It -- to me it's more of a -- once I'm done with
11 in-service to make sure that I put bullets back into my
12 magazine, you know? My duty rounds.
13 So I -- I don't -- I didn't know exactly how
14 many I put in there or anything like that.
15 LT. SANDERS: Okay. No problem.
16 Did you reload at any time during the
17 incident?
19 LT. SANDERS: And then what attachments does
20 your weapons have -- or weapon have? Does it have any --
21 what attachment are on there?
22 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: So I only have the -- I
23 only had the one magazine seated patrol-ready in my
24 truck. I did not have another magazine attached to it.
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1 the front right side of my rifle.
2 LT. SANDERS: Are there any personal
3 modifications made to the rifle?
4 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: No. Not -- not of
5 anything that I've done or was aware of. So.
6 LT. SANDERS: Okay. All right.
7 That concludes my portion of it. As you can
8 understand, the investigation's ongoing.
9 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Sure.
10 LT. SANDERS: Our internal affairs
11 investigation is somewhat dependent on the outcome of the
12 criminal side. So after we get this information, we kind
13 of stop. You know, there's not going to be an ongoing
14 investigation until that criminal side gets screened.
16 LT. SANDERS: At that point we'll -- we'll be
17 able to move through fairly quick, once that's --
19 LT. SANDERS: -- done, and we'll start --
20 rulings made.
22 LT. SANDERS: So at this point do you -- or
23 Brett do you have any questions?
24 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't have any.

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OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I don't.
2 LT. SANDERS: Anything? No questions?
3 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
4 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: I -- my only, you know
5 well, it it -- my only question, you know, at what
6 point do I get to see the whole report? You know what I
7 mean? Like, at what point do I get to know where
8 everybody else was standing and what -- you know what I
9 mean? Is that a fair question?
10 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Much, much later.
11 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
12 UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah.
13 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Much later, okay. So
14 leave it alone is what we're --
15 LT. SANDERS: Yeah. It's not going to be any
16 time soon.
17 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Any time soon. Okay.
18 LT. SANDERS: But you will, at some point
19 if I have to do a personal, you'll get that.
20 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Right. And like body
21 camera footage and dash cam footage and things like
22 that --
23 LT. SANDERS: At some point, yes, you'll have
24 access.

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May 30, 2018 Page 65
1 LT. SANDERS: So anything else?
4 I have to ask you, at this point -- not
5 asking for anything else, but is there any amendments
6 that you feel like you need to make?
7 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Amendments? Like?
8 LT. SANDERS: Changes to your statement.
9 Anything --
12 With that being said, we will conclude the
13 interview. It is 11:37 hours.
14 (End of recording.)
15 * * * * *
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
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May 30, 2018 Page 66
TRANSCRIBER'S CERTIFICATE
STATE OF UTAH
) ss
COUNTY OF SALT LAKE
I, Amber R. Fraass, a Utah Certified Court Reporter

and Registered Professional Reporter, do hereby certify:
That I listened to the recorded interview and took

down in shorthand the foregoing on July 25th, 2018.
That I thereafter transcribed my said shorthand

notes into typewriting and that the typewritten
transcript of said conversation is a complete, true and
accurate transcription of my said shorthand notes taken
down at said time, to the best of my ability to hear and
understand the audio file.
I further certify that I am not a relative or

employee of an attorney or counsel involved in said
action, nor a person financially interested in said
action.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I hereby certify this

transcript in the County of Utah, State of Utah, this 1st
day of August, 2018.
Amber R. Fraass, RPR, CSR

801-746-5080
PET000263
Audio Transcription
May 30, 2018 Index: 1..answers
56 15:21 17:24 acknowledgment 7:17
5600 16:21 acquired 59:1
1 57:11 5th 31:13 action 7:5,10 34:7
10 10:15 activate 4:3
6
100 21:20 activated 3:22 4:17
1033 19:1,7 62 18:7,20 45:13 activates 4:8
1088 18:19 46:7 6200 16:8,11 18:8 19:22, actual 3:19 14:3 31:7
23 20:6 21:8 25:7 26:2 45:7
11 10:15
32:4 36:25 37:11 addition 24:21 49:13
11:37 65:13
6:00 13:20,21 administrative 6:23,25
12 10:16
7:5
13 10:14,16 7 admission 31:14
1600 13:21
7-eleven 45:11 46:4 affairs 63:10
7111 16:4,7 aftermath 42:23
2
7800 17:24 18:5 ahead 16:13 18:2 22:10
2005 10:8 43:16 59:8
78th 18:1
2007 9:24 10:8,10 aid 57:13
2017 61:7,8 9 air 17:5 18:12,18
25-yard 54:14 Airport 18:6 19:22
90th 15:21
2:00 58:8,12,14 alcohol 52:21
alertness 16:17
3
alignment 25:16
a.m. 13:21
30 61:23 alter 57:2
absolutely 34:11 44:21
3957 35:6 55:13,16 57:12 alternative 47:11
abuse 11:20 12:2 Amendment 31:14

4 amendments 65:5,7
academy 12:12,14
40th 18:8 20:11 access 4:23 46:19 50:25 amount 30:4,9 57:18
40th-ish 18:21 64:24 Andres 18:24 28:19
4:00 13:20 58:12,14 accident 22:16,20 44:5 Andres's 19:6
accidents 14:11,22 angle 26:12 39:6
5 25:21
answering 9:18
accurate 35:3,4 36:11
54 15:7 37:2 answers 3:6

801-746-5080
PET000264
Audio Transcription
May 30, 2018 Index: anticipated..cab
anticipated 22:7 attire 47:18 48:2 36:14 38:11 57:24
anticipation 23:7 attorney 3:8 black 21:13 48:2 53:4,5
anymore 59:23 audio 3:13 54:3
apologize 12:9 30:13 automatically 4:7 bleed 35:22

38:5 54:23 58:19 aware 63:5 blood 30:4,9,23 31:6,7
appeared 53:5 57:18
awful 9:1
approaching 21:5 bodily 60:19
approximate 58:4,6 body 4:10,20 5:1,3,5

14:4,15,17 27:21 30:9
approximately 11:2,4,5 31:20,21 48:6 64:20
back 20:24 23:1 25:1
AR 54:21 29:6,7,11,18,19,25 boots 48:1,3
AR-15 20:24,25 25:12 30:12,17,23 31:8 33:6,13
bottom 36:8 43:19
33:3 46:19 51:1 54:8,22 34:5 38:18,21 41:11
44:14 46:20 52:8,17 bottoms 14:3
arbitrator 4:5,10 54:20 62:11 bounce 28:14
area 15:13,16,17 16:3,12 background 22:13 Braces 54:23
31:2 45:16
Backup 3:17 brandished 16:7
arm 20:16,18
backwards 18:23 brass 48:4
armed 16:18 20:19 45:10
bad 32:19 41:14 breast 14:3
arrived 46:9 48:22 58:25
badge 14:3 48:4 Brett 63:23
arriving 16:4 53:21
barrier 26:14 briefly 47:24
articles 5:14
based 21:12 24:7 45:22 bring 26:10 41:22 54:6
ascertain 3:19 55:17
bringing 30:23 54:16
asks 7:17 basic 6:17 8:5
brought 29:11,18,19,25
assigned 4:11 11:1 basically 6:19 8:12 13:3 46:3 56:22
assist 7:4 basis 12:1 45:17 build 52:24
associates 12:15 bed 60:3 bullet 28:2,14
assuming 9:10 17:25 began 13:17 bullets 62:11
assured 17:13 behalf 57:8 busier 19:25
attached 62:24 belt 14:5 48:3,8 busy 20:6 33:9
attachment 62:21,25 Benzon 3:14 button 47:1,14
attachments 62:19 big 58:21
attempt 28:20 bit 9:3 10:21 11:16 15:3 C
attempted 29:12,20 18:2 29:14 31:18 32:2
cab 25:12 26:3 40:8

801-746-5080
PET000265
Audio Transcription
May 30, 2018 Index: cage..continued
cage 46:21 check 16:13 31:10,11 comment 5:14
call 15:8 16:3 17:4 22:19 32:12 57:22
committed 34:1
29:12,21 checked 30:18 57:16
communication 50:12
called 8:10 15:21 17:20 checking 30:19 Community 12:13
19:1 30:25 46:4 57:20 child 11:20 12:2,4
compared 20:1
cam 4:8,10,20 5:3,4,5 children 11:20
64:21 compelling 6:16
choice 33:18
camera 14:4,15,17 27:21 completely 36:10
31:20,21 48:6 64:21 Chrysler 40:21
compliance 21:18 23:17
cameras 27:2 citizens 51:7 29:13 33:19 34:2 39:18
civilian 44:1 51:17,19
campers 41:4
civilians 25:5 26:23 27:3 compliant 17:1 20:21
canted 38:11
34:5 42:7 23:17
capacity 61:14 62:3 complying 51:20
clarification 8:25 9:4
capture 27:18
clarify 45:23 50:17 concern 26:23 27:3
car 18:20 20:17 21:8,10 28:22 41:9 44:4 52:4
22:22,23 24:2 25:25 clarifying 44:17 58:24 57:10
26:9,10,13,15,17,21 Clark 32:20,21 33:12 concerned 19:21 29:9
32:25 33:1,6,14 38:21
Class 14:2 47:19 34:12 46:23
39:1 40:22 41:22 43:6,25
44:4,7 56:6,18 clear 42:8 59:15 conclude 65:12
care 35:18 cleared 54:5 concludes 63:7
cars 20:4 24:3 click 47:13 condition 30:16 57:3
case 27:19 60:21 clock 58:8 conference 61:18
caught 14:19 close 49:19,22 50:9 56:8, confidence 33:18
cell 5:6 10 confident 15:11 41:2
Center 20:9,11 37:16,20 closer 31:18 54:13 confirm 31:25
certification 11:17 clothing 21:13 conflicting 51:25
chain 56:2 code 15:19,22 consideration 53:22
chance 31:3 College 12:14,16 console 47:2
chances 54:19 comfortable 29:2 contact 50:12,13
charge 24:19 25:11 command 30:15 49:3 contacts 59:22
39:22 commands 22:25 23:8 continue 29:13
charged 24:13 30:12 34:11 49:11 51:11
52:2,11 continued 16:21 25:13
charging 25:11 26:23 40:12 46:7 49:10

801-746-5080
PET000266
Audio Transcription
May 30, 2018 Index: continues..drove
continues 40:18 18,24,25 15:17 19:25 diagonal 22:14 25:1
convey 27:9 48:18 57:25 58:3,5 38:22
Copper 11:3,12 daylight 58:3 diagram 8:21 35:24 47:7
copy 35:6 deactivated 31:20 die 24:7
corner 23:13 39:8 deadly 7:2 60:6,16,17 difficult 52:1
Correct 35:17 dealing 50:23,24 difficulty 17:2
corrected 25:16 dealt 45:19 direction 15:19 23:19

death 12:4 60:19 27:22 36:25 39:12,16
corrective 59:17 46:10
correctly 35:16 debrief 32:14 55:21 56:1
directly 7:6 15:9 25:4
Corridor 15:23 decals 22:4
disciplinary 7:10
couple 14:1 54:18 58:9 decent 30:4,9
discipline 7:16
cover 21:24 26:6,13,18 decided 39:20
dismissal 7:11
27:9,13 29:4 38:18 deep 38:5
56:13,17 dispatch 16:6 45:10
degree 12:15,17
coverage 27:24 distance 18:2 20:10,15
demeanor 20:20 22:11 24:10 48:23 52:22
crash 49:2 Denlce 13:19 54:6,12
crashed 25:24 40:23 department 6:23 7:1,10, distances 20:12 38:7
41:20 43:25 49:1,10 16 10:22 57:21 61:11,12 39:11
criminal 6:18 7:14 12:17 dependent 63:11 distinguish 61:22 62:8
63:12,14
Depending 10:14 Dixie 12:16 15:13,17
cross 38:5,14 16:8 45:12,13
deploy 53:19
crossfire 27:3,11 dog 28:23 29:6,11,14,17,
deployed 54:8,22 18,19,20,25 46:20
current 9:25 10:11 11:7,
13 describe 3:20 47:17,22 dont 31:9
53:2 57:7
custody 56:2 double 31:25 55:6
description 16:5,10,18
21:12 41:16 46:2 dress 13:23
D
detail 47:18 drew 45:11
danger 25:9 51:6 55:12, determination 24:15 Drive 20:9 37:20
15
determining 7:4 driver's 23:14 27:18 28:2
dark 14:2,3 48:3 32:9 39:15 40:5 42:1
develop 15:25 50:2 51:22,23
dash 4:8 5:4,5 64:21
device 3:15 driving 23:19
date 9:22 60:24 61:1
devices 3:21 4:1 53:19 drove 33:14
day 13:8,12 14:2,9,12,16,

801-746-5080
PET000267
Audio Transcription
May 30, 2018 Index: drugs..forcing
drugs 52:21 evidence 7:13 52:24 feet 50:4
dust 56:13,16 exact 35:6 36:16 61:1 felon 34:10 39:19 50:24
duties 7:7 excitement 19:11 felony 34:1
duty 7:9 12:22,23,25 excuse 22:1 26:20 39:5 felt 29:1 49:22 57:19
14:5 48:3,8 62:12 41:7 50:1
female 22:15 25:1,8
exit 38:16 38:20 51:4
E
expect 8:1 field 27:6,10 41:5
early 13:11,12 expecting 36:10 figure 47:9
east 17:25 18:4,7 19:23 experienced 19:19 fill 3:9 62:2
20:7,8,10 21:5,6 22:7 explain 13:22 find 57:17
25:7 26:2 37:4,5 38:2,9
39:21 46:11,12 explained 22:11 32:3 finish 8:13
38:11 41:21 45:3,23
eastbound 32:6 38:4,10 fire 30:25 31:2 33:18
extra 48:11 39:21 55:18 57:20
edge 49:23
eye 50:12 59:17 firearm 48:9 56:11
education 12:15
firearm's 60:8
effective 54:13
fired 24:20 31:11,12,16,
efforts 57:7 18,23,24 32:1,8 40:7
face 25:9
elevated 16:24 49:19 50:21 55:1,8,12,20
faced 25:8 61:10
emergency 4:4
fact 3:10 17:4 23:24 firefighter 31:2
employment 7:22 8:5
24:22 31:12,13 33:20
9:23 FIT 11:19,21
34:10 36:24 39:18 41:3
end 3:2 11:11 24:8 58:10 46:20 50:24 fitness 7:7
65:14 fail 7:12 fled 51:12
ended 25:3 33:10 43:21 failures 3:16 fleeing 34:10 50:24
enforce 14:21 focus 26:21 29:2
fair 64:9
ensure 32:21 fairly 63:17 focused 26:3 30:14
environment 57:24 familiar 19:9 45:15 Foliage 58:16
equipment 3:16 4:2 fast 15:2 23:21 followup 8:25
46:14
faster 18:6 foot 16:11
estimation 34:25 52:20
fastest 17:10 footage 4:24 27:24 64:21
evaluated 33:15
fear 19:11 24:15 force 7:2 60:6,13,16,17
everybody's 26:21
27:11,12 feel 8:6 65:6 forcing 6:19

801-746-5080
PET000268
Audio Transcription
May 30, 2018 Index: Forensic,.hurts
Forensic 11:22 Google 34:23 headline 5:25
forget 36:3 grab 14:15 26:10 hear 16:24 23:1,9 49:4
52:1,14,16
formally 6:16 great 32:16
heard 15:8 16:3 25:8
forward 15:2 28:24 29:7, greater 54:12
22 30:1,3,17 ground 28:14 hearing 17:12 19:8,11,19
found 57:14 31:1
group 27:8
held 27:22 48:7
foundational 3:20 grouped 31:22
free 8:10 hey 18:14 22:19 27:10
guess 3:8 24:19 31:19 42:16
front 22:2 23:13 24:16 guesstimate 20:12 high 11:3 25:13 50:23
26:19 31:14 33:13 38:15
gun 18:19 21:15 22:6 51:2
39:7 44:4 48:10 51:22
63:1 23:18,24 24:13 29:10 Hills 11:1,3,12
33:24 39:12 46:7,9 51:19
frozen 9:15 53:1,13 hired 10:24
full 14:1 history 10:22 11:16
guys 19:15
fully 7:12 hit 23:23 25:4,18,22 40:3,
H 5,12,14,16,22 51:5
hitting 25:23
habit 56:9
holding 53:15
gained 7:13 half 11:2,4
hole 28:2
gaps 3:9 hall 61:18
holiday 20:1
Garrity 6:14 7:9 hand 30:23 31:7,16,25
holster 20:24 54:5
gathered 31:18 53:15 54:4
home 13:11
gave 30:12,15 34:22 49:2 handgun 20:23 34:10
46:2 47:15 48:10 53:5 hood 26:20,21
geez 8:6
54:2,8,13 60:9 hospital 32:24 33:2,10,
general 13:23 27:17 55:3
handguns 62:4 14 56:21
give 7:19,23 8:10,21
handled 22:16 hour 44:23
18:14,16 28:12 47:9
48:20 49:5,11 hands 21:14 hours 58:9 65:13
giving 22:25 23:8 35:11 happen 19:16 57:22 house 39:4
glasses 59:22 happened 21:20 35:25 human 29:22
44:5 56:1 58:7 hundred 54:18
Glock 48:12
happening 50:11 hurry 9:19
glove 30:24 31:5
harm's 59:10 hurt 24:5,6
good 6:11 9:16 30:20
42:22 43:5 44:22,25 head 25:25 40:22 hurts 24:17

801-746-5080
PET000269
Audio Transcription
May 30, 2018 Index: Hutch.,learned
Hutch 15:14,25 16:1,3,9, initial 32:14 38:6 45:5 keeping 29:2 42:9
11,19 17:1,5,10,12,13,21 46:1
key 3:4
18:7 19:1,9,13,16,19
initially 17:7 21:13 32:25
20:21 21:18,21,23,25 killed 34:9
28:23 29:5,6,18 34:11 injured 34:8
kind 8:6,22 14:23 15:15,
45:12 46:4 47:16 49:8 injury 60:19 24 16:1 18:16 22:14
50:25 52:9,12 26:5,6,14 27:23 28:12
inquiry 7:1
Hutch's 19:8 22:3 23:13 30:12,18 31:8,10,18,22,
25:17 26:14,24 27:25 internal 7:16 63:10 24 32:11,13,16 33:8,9
34:14 35:10 39:5,8 41:20 interruptions 8:13 35:24 38:8,10,21 39:3,6
43:10,12 46:11,17,20 40:19 42:22 52:23 53:23
intersection 18:3 20:9 54:14 63:12
50:2 54:2
26:25 38:2,3 40:25 41:1,
Hutchings 15:9 3 kneeling 26:20
interview 3:19 7:3,13 8:2 knew 15:9 17:15,18
11:22 65:13 22:10 23:2 33:22 45:12
interviewing 11:19 12:1 knowing 16:17 17:6
IA 3:13 19:10,13 20:20 22:19
IA2018-005 6:23 intimidated 34:4 29:9 30:16 34:4 53:25
investigation 3:13 6:24, knowledge 45:20 46:13
idea 33:1
25 12:4 63:11,14 47:9
identification 48:21 49:5
investigation's 63:8 KSL 5:86:7,10
identified 39:3
irrelevant 19:15
identify 21:12
issues 57:11 L
immediately 55:21 57:3
impact 30:6 Labaron 40:22
J
impaired 52:20 58:16 labeled 47:6
59:4,6 job 32:16 Lake 12:13
in-service 60:9 62:11 Jordan 6:23,25 10:7,11 lanes 32:6 38:4,10
25:18,23 26:9,15,16
inaudible 43:2 33:14 46:15 large 57:18
incident 4:24 5:2,15 Josh 7:21 9:22 34:21 LASER 12:8
12:22 15:3 45:5,7 52:15
June 11:11 LASIK 59:18
57:4 58:7 59:25 62:17
justice 12:17 late 60:1
including 7:11 10:22
juvenile 11:6,7 laws 14:2.1
indicating 16:23
leads 5:12
information 3:9,20 5:15
K learned 45:4,6 55:23
7:4,13,15 8:5 34:19
42:15 45:4 63:12 61:23 62:8
K-9 22:4 29:19

801-746-5080
PET000270
Audio Transcription
May 30, 2018 Index: learning,.mentioned
learning 12:18 locked 20:25 47:11 magazine 61:14 62:12,
leather 14:5 48:3 loft 34:19 23,24
leave 17:5,16 24:14 long 13:15 22:11 52:6 magazines 48:11 57:3
56:10 64:14 62:3
looked 30:5 54:2
leaving 32:23 magnet 48:7
lost 40:19
Leery 23:5 27:15 43:14 main 12:4 25:19
lot 9:1 20:2
Leery's 38:12 make 9:5 17:14,17 18:5,
loud 6:22 48:24 10 19:23 2.3:1,8 27:23
left 4:25 11:12 13:19 14:4 LT 3:4,12,18,24 4:2,5,9, 29:3 31:3,13 36:19 52:17
16:10 18:6 22:14 23:13 13,15,19,22 5:2,5,10,12, 53:7 61:22 62:8,11 65:6
24:18,20 25:2,10 27:5,6
17,20,23 6:1,3,7,11,22 making 15:16 16:20
28:19,20,25 29:5 30:7,10
8:1,4,9,12,16,19,24 9:5, 27:11 28:23 32:16 42:4,
32:8,9 33:3,25 38:22 8,11,14,17,21,25 10:4,9,
39:24 40:7 48:6,7,8,9,10 11
12,14,17,21 11:15,21,24
50:1 56:7,17 12:21,24 13:3,7,13,15,22 MALE 9:12 36:2 44:25
left-handed 20:17 29:1 14:6,13 15:2,6 34:21,25 45:1 63:24 64:3,10,11,12
left-ish 23:3 35:3,10,14,17,20,24 man 12:8 46:7

36:4,7,13,16,21 37:3,6,9, manner 14:12
legitimate 3:5 13,18,21,25 41:13,15
lethal 27:14,20 28:7,8,12, 42:21,25 43:2,4,9,18,22 Mansano 32:24
13 42:6 44:2,6,9,11,13,16,19,23 Mansano's 56:6
45:2,8,14,18,21 46:13,22
level 45:25 50:18 47:17,21,24 48:16,19 map 34:23 41:17
Lidar 12:8 49:4,12,15,19,24 50:3,7, Marisha 32:24 33:8 56:5
10,16,21 51:10,14,16,25
lieutenant 18:15 31:9,19 Marisha's 33:5
52:14,19 53:1,6,9,11,15,
32:2 42:13,15 mark 8:21
18 54:9,11,24 55:3,7,11,
life 55:12 57:22 14,17,22,25 56:12,15,24 marker 35:21
life-saving 31:4 57:7 57:2,6,23 58:4,13,15,20,
23 59:3,16,20,24 60:5, math 11:9
light 62:25 15,20 61:2,5,7,9,13,20, meaning 3:25 18:2,24
lights 4:4 17:6 18:11 24 62:2,6,15,19 63:2,6, 30:5
10,16,19,22,25 64:2,15,
limited 14:24 measurements 36:16
18,23 65:1,3,8,11
listening 15:24 media 5:15
lives 55:14 M mellow 14:12
located 5:8 35:7 Memorial 13:12
made 22:18 27:9 28:14,
location 17:4 18:8,16 20 31:25 32:11 33:4 52:1 memory 3:9
19:3 30:20,25 35:5 46:12 63:3,20 mental 51:19
51:8
mag 48:11 mentioned 6:7 17:25

801-746-5080
PET000271
Audio Transcription
May 30, 2018 Index: mid..ofticers
21:8,9 38:20 39:9 40:11 occurred 15:6
46:8 53:20 N
occurs 15:3
mid 60:1
named 5:25 office 7:8
middle 11:1,3 47:1
narrowly 7:6 officer 3:3,11,17,23,25
mind 15:9,14 18:4 19:12 4:3,7,12,14,18,21 5:1,3,
needed 32:12
21:17 22:24 23:22 25:9 7,11,16,18,21,24 6:2,5,9,
33:17 42:9 43:5 nice 8:20 21 7:25 8:3,8,11,15,18,
mine 9:9 38:22 47:6 56:6 night 60:4 23 9:4,7,9,13,16,20,24
10:2,3,6,10,13,15,20,24
minor 22:16 night's 60:3 11:1,18,22,25 12:23
19:13,15 noises 51:25 13:1,5,9,14,17,25 14:8,
14 15:5,7 19:10 23:23
model 53:7 noncompliance 24:8
25:1 27:5 29:19,25
49:9
modifications 63:3 32:15,20 33:12,13 34:24
noncompliant 21:21 35:2,9,12,15,18,23 36:1,
moment 50:17
north 16:21 18:1,5 21:15, 6,12,15,18,23 37:5,7,10,
Monday 13:18 15:3 14,19,24 38:1,20,21
25 24:24 35:16 39:13
month 10:14 44:1 41:8,14,16,22 42:10,24
43:1,3,8,12,21,24 44:3,7,
Morgan 18:24,25 19:2 northbound 15:23 17:8 10,12,15,18,21 45:7,9,
28:19 15,20 46:1,17,23 47:20,
northeast 21:25
motor 10:2,3,18,23 11:8, 23,25 48:17,22 49:5,6,
northwest 22:1 13,18,21,25 50:5,8,14,
11,13 12:7 13:18,19
14:20 48:1,2,5 note 3:14 35:5 43:6,10, 19,22 51:4,12,15,17
20 52:3,16,22 53:3,8,10,12,
Mountain 15:23 17:8
17,20 54:10,12 55:2,5,9,
noticed 17:23,24
move 5:13 27:4 28:21 13,16,19,23 56:4,14,16,
29:13,22 30:15 49:3,14 November 9:24 10:16 22,25 57:5,9,11 58:1,6,
57:15 63:17 number 18:19 57:11 14,18,22 59:2,5,18,21
moved 28:24 29:4,5 30:1 60:2,7,17,22 61:3,6,8,12,
numbers 37:11 15,21,25 62:4,7,18,22
movement 26:4 28:16 Nunley 14:24 63:4,9,15,18,21 64:1,4,
29:8,16,23 30:11,21 13,17,20,25 65:2,7,10
42:18
0 officer's 25:8
moving 23:20 30:17
42:23 49:16 officer-involved 22:16
obstructed 59:13
multiple 28:7 60:24 officers 15:19 20:8,13
obstructions 58:15
21:16 22:6,10 23:18 26:4
Murray 60:9 obtain 7:3 27:8,10 29:22 33:25 34:4
muzzle 29:3 OC 48:9 39:12 42:16 46:10 51:11,
20
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May 30, 2018 Index: officers'..proceeding
officers' 29:9 penetrate 28:8 65:4
official 6:25 7:7 people 20:2 37:23 pointed 23:17
on-duty 13:4,8 perceive 55:11,14 pointing 21:15 22:6 37:7
percent 21:20 39:10,11 46:9 51:19
ongoing 63:8,13
perception 54:25 55:18 points 59:13
open 17:5 56:17
Perfect 10:17 police 6:23 7:1 10:3
opened 13:20
12:12 26:9,15,17 30:15
opportunities 59:12 performance 7:7 40:10,13,15,17 45:6
orient 36:21 permitted 60:16,17 46:15 49:3,14 52:2 53:22
59:7
outcome 30:16 63:11 personal 61:10 63:2
64:19 port 56:7,8,10,12
outline 47:7
personally 19:12 31:15 portion 32:3 63:7
owned 61:11
45:18 position 22:9 26:11,12
pertains 7:1 37:6 48:8
P
phone 5:6 positive 39:4
p.m. 58:14 possession 46:15
phones 27:2
paired 32:18,20 Possibly 50:8
photographic 4:24
paper 35:21 POST 12:14
phrase 52:10
park 20:9,11,18 37:16,20 posted 5:14,22
picture 47:7 60:22
38:3,10 47:1
piling 33:1 pouchs 48:11
parked 41:4 53:24 59:11
pistol 47:7 practice 54:15
part 3:12 6:24 12:12 14:9
19:14 19:13
pass 25:6
place 19:14 48:7 pretty 5:24 14:12 15:11
passed 32:7 51:8 18:12 19:25 20:6 22:11
plan 3:17 32:20 41:2 42:21 43:5
passenger 25:24 40:22
43:25 44:7 plate 14:4 48:4,5 59:15
passenger's 27:14 41:20 point 15:22 17:1,3,6 previous 14:18
42:3,5 18:11,18 19:17 20:20 print 7:19
21:19 22:9,10 23:3,10,
passing 39:23 40:6 50:2, printed 34:2 3
12,18 24:4,8,11,12,15
19
25:14 26:7,18 27:7,25 prior 13:8 59:25
past 45:19 28:15 29:9,17 30:2 31:4,
Prison 10:7
patrol 10:25 14:2 41:22 12,17 33:5,24 40:19
45:16 47:19 48:1,2,3 42:13,18 43:2 47:4 49:3, problem 62:15
11 51:21 54:8,21 56:5, procedures 31:4
patrol-ready 62:23 21,22 57:11,12,19 58:18
63:16,22 64:6,7,18,23 proceeding 7:14

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May 30, 2018 Index: program..respond
program 12:6 regard 34:11
R
progress 42:4 regular 13:4,6,8,16,21
14:5 45:16 47:19 48:1
prosecution 6:18 radio 15:8,25 16:4 17:3,
60:2
protecting 6:18 13,16,19,22 18:23,24,25
45:6,10 46:6 48:15 related 7:6
proving 41:17
raise 31:25 relation 22:18
public 31:11 32:3,10
44:4 55:20,21 raised 16:16 31:16 relative 37:22 49:16
pull 54:1 57:16 ram 34:14 relayed 42:14

random 41:4 releases 47:2
pulled 20:16,18 33:22
39:19 range 54:14 56:9 reload 62:16
pulling 20:16 rank 10:1 remember 3:5 6:5 8:14
12:8 15:20 16:12,14,15,
pulse 30:19 57:16,17 rate 25:13
19,23 17:11,20 18:13,17
purpose 7:3 reached 18:3 30:3 19:7 20:4,9 21:1,23,24
pushed 47:1 read 5:13,19,22,23 6:13, 22:12,14 23:10,12 24:3,
16,22 10,12 25:5 26:11,19,22
put 20:23 33:5,6 35:13 27:15,16 28:17,18 29:2
36:3,5 38:6 44:8 46:25 ready 20:19 40:2 30:1,2,12,18,22 31:1,5,9,
54:4,7 56:5,6,19 59:10 10,23 32:13,15 38:13,15,
realize 36:13 47:10
62:6,11,14 18 39:3,6 40:10,24 42:13
realized 20:22 25:2 54:6
putting 20:18 21:2 43:15,24 49:7,25 50:14
rear 21:3 34:5 51:18 52:8 53:17 58:1,4,
recall 8:10,16 54:24,25 7,10 60:3,11,13,23
Q
61:13,16,19
recent 25:21
qualification 60:8 reminded 40:21
recognize 53:6,13
qualified 60:21 replaying 33:17
recollection 15:4 53:2
question 5:13 6:12,13 reply 7:9,12
30:19 49:16 58:24 61:19 record 3:13 8:7 47:21
report 64:6
64:5,9 recording 3:15,21 37:3
50:3 65:14 reports 14:18
questioned 6:24
red 18:20 21:8,10 representation 35:3,4
questions 3:1,2 7:6,10,
22 9:1,8 44:17 63:23 redundant 9:3 requested 57:21
64:2 requests 7:20
Reese 18:14,15,24 19:5
quick 15:15 51:24 55:5 31:9,19 32:2 33:9 42:13, resource 10:25 12:6
63:17 16
respect 19:10
quickly 34:3 reference 35:11
respond 51:11
quiet 14:9 refuse 7:11

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May 30, 2018 Index: responded..shooting
responded 45:24 Salt 12:13 screened 63:14
responding 45:22 SANDERS 3:4,12,18,24 screwed 39:11
responsibility 14:21 4:2,5,9,13,15,19,22 5:2, seat 30:5,7 33:13
5,10,12,17,20,23 6:1,3,7,
retrieved 29:6 11,22 8:1,4,9,12,16,19, seatbelt 15:10,11
review 4:24 24 9:5,8,11,14,17,21,25 seated 62:23
10:4,9,12,14,17,21
rifle 20:24 33:6 38:16 11:15,21,24 12:21,24 secluded 32:17
47:10 54:9,16 56:13,23 13:3,7,13,15,22 14:6,13 secondary 14:22
60:21 62:5 63:1,3 15:2,6 34:21,25 35:3,10,
sections 5:14
right-hand 18:10 19:23 14,17,20,24 36:4,7,13,
16,21 37:3,6,9,13,18,21, semester 12:16
road 19:22 20:2,6
25 41:13,15 42:21,25 separate 35:6
robbery 16:7 33:23 39:19 43:2,4,9,18,22 44:2,6,9,
45:10 46:3 11,13,16,19,23 45:2,8, sequence 21:1
room 61:18 14,18,21 46:13,22 47:17, Sergeant 3:14 14:24
21,24 48:16,19 49:4,12,
rotated 37:10 19:14
15,19,24 50:3,7,10,16,21
roughly 50:4,5 51:10,14,16,25 52:14,19 service 10:4,5
53:1,6,9,11,15,18 54:9, set 24:3
round 61:14
11,24 55:3,7,11,14,17,
rounds 54:25 62:6,12 22,25 56:12,15,24 57:2, setup 46:18
route 17:9,10 18:6 6,23 58:4,13,15,20,23 Shall 32:15
59:3,16,20,24 60:5,15,20
routine 13:23,24 14:6,16 61:2,5,7,9,13,20,24 62:2, shame 3:6
rubber 28:13 6,15,19 63:2,6,10,16,19, shattered 28:10
22,25 64:2,15,18,23 Shepherd 26:19 30:2,3,
rulings 63:20 65:1,3,8,11 18,22 31:5,23 33:6 55:24
run 44:1 52:6 57:13 56:19 57:16
sat 33:12,13
running 15:19,22 17:6 saving 31:4 57:22 Shepherd's 56:23
rush 59:9 scale 36:9 38:9 shield 28:18,25
scared 34:4 shields 28:20,25 57:15
S
scenario 31:15 33:17 shift 12:25 13:4,8,16,18,
safe 29:21 33:4 21,23 15:10,11,12 58:10
scenarios 54:17
59:25 60:1
safer 57:14 scene 32:23 33:11 48:23
53:21 58:25 shifting 26:5
safety 24:13,20 25:11
29:9 31:11 32:3,10 39:23 shoot 22:8 23:25 24:12,
school 10:25 11:1,3,4,12
42:9 44:4 55:21 57:11 22 34:15 40:2,4,5 54:20
12:6
saliva 54:23 schools 11:19 shooting 42:5 54:18 56:9

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May 30, 2018 Index: short..strange
short 16:5 18:22 23:19 slide 35:21 stacking 20:8 27:8 53:23
25:22
sling 21:2 stand 11:21
shortly 56:6,19
slot 13:20 standing 18:20 22:2 26:6
shot 25:12 27:13 32:4,22 38:17,25
social 5:15
shotgun 46:19 47:10 39:7,25 41:8 64:8
solid 9:14,15
51:2 standpoint 28:6 49:21
somebody's 5:6 24:6 52:25 53:4
shots 28:7 32:8 33:18
40:7 someone's 24:5,6 start 8:13 13:11 15:24
shoulder 14:4 27:22 IMI 19:13 17:6 20:13 24:24 27:14
48:6,8 32:23 47:11 57:13 63:19
sort 27:19 48:20
shouted 48:24 started 13:18 15:18
sounded 22:21 23:4 16:20 17:8,12 21:5 23:19
shut 52:5 sounds 32:19 39:15,17 54:1
side 20:16,18 21:7,14 source 6:4 starting 39:16
23:14 24:1,21,23 27:8,
15,18 28:2,18,19,20,25 south 16:8,11 17:24 starts 24:18
29:5 30:8,10 32:4,8,9,10, 18:5,8 19:22,23 20:6 State 10:7 12:16
12 33:25 34:16 37:1,8,12 21:7,8 25:7 26:2 32:4,5
36:25 37:11 statement 6:16 7:9 9:2
38:3 39:15 40:6,16,25
65:8
41:2,10,20,23 42:1,3,5, space 3:2
16 48:4,9,10 50:1,2 statements 6:19
special 47:3
51:22,23 63:1,12,14 station 15:7 37:2 56:22
specialties 10:23
sidewalk 21:23 stay 17:22
specific 46:18 53:14
sideways 37:11 stayed 17:3 28:25 56:4
specifically 7:6 2.7:16
sight 59:13 step 6:13
37:22
sights 21:3 Steve 15:9 29:18
specifics 20:4
signature 7:19 stole 33:21
speculate 25:15
signed 7:18 stood 33:8
speed 25:13
significant 11:17 stop 12:18 24:16 41:11
speeds 34:2,9
siren 22:22,24 23:2,7,11 54:20 63:13
spot 11:8 30:20
sirens 17:6 18:11 22:12, stopped 22:23 43:22
spray 48:9
13 23:4 38:23 48:25 52:4 stopping 20:14,17
squad 10:19,23
situation 17:1,15 19:21 stops 15:16
SRO 12:5
skipped 16:1 story 8:12,14
stack 41:23
slacks 48:2 straight 39:24
stacked 26:16 30:14
sleep 59:24 60:3 strange 50:10
41:9,10,19,23 59:8

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May 30, 2018 Index: stuff..understand
stuff 4:23 12:13 22:4 team's 41:19 trained 19:10 60:6
subsequent 7:15 test 21:18 23:17 29:13 training 11:16,19,23
suiting 14:17 33:19 51:19 12:5,7,11,14 60:14,25
sun 58:2 thing 6:17 8:20 33:4 transitioned 26:1
sunny 58:2 things 14:25 16:24,25 transmissions 46:6

21:2,3 32:18 41:5 54:17,
surgery 59:19 Troy 23:5,6 27:15 38:11,
19 64;21
15 43:14
surprises 7:23 thinking 6:10 15:14 18:4
truck 20:23 21:21,22
suspect 5:25 9:1 16:6,7, 20:18 21:18 22:8 23:16,
22:1,3,4 23:13,14,15,20
10,16,18 20:15,23 21:6, 20,22 24:4,5,10,12,16,
24:11 25:4,12,13,15,18,
10,12 22:2,5,25 23:1,12, 21,25 25:5,7,21 34:1,2
20,21,23,24 26:4,14,20,
15 25:17 26:15 29:8 39:17 40:2 51:3,6 53:25
22,24 27:15,25 28:16,24
30:4,17 32:7 39:2,7 58:9,10
29:24 30:3,15 31:8 33:21
43:20 45:19 46:5,14 47:5 thought 25:20 33:20 34:14,15 35:7,10 38:3,
49:9 51:10 52:1,15,20 10,16,23 39:5,8,15 40:8,
54:3,7,14 55:8 57:8 59:1, threat 37:23 45:25 50:17
51:2,7 54:1,20 57:20 11,13,14,15,17 41:20
12 43:13,16,20,25 46:12,18,
suspect's 19:3 20:19 thumb 31:7 24,25 47:16 49:1,10 50:2
Thursday 13:10,18 51:1,5,13,22,23 53:2.4
suspicion 16:2
54:2,7 57:10,13,15 59:9,
swiftly 23:21 time 9:21 11:13 12:13 11 62:24
16:5 17:17 18:22 19;25
23:19 25:22 58:5,11 trunk 33:5 56:5,7,17
T 60:3,5,20 61:2 62:16 truthfully 7:12
64:16,17
table 35:22 49:23 tug 47:9
timid 31:12
tac 62:25 turn 18:5,10 19:23 22:24
timing 55:4 23:2,6 31:20 36:24
taking 51:24
told 3:7 18:18 22:5 26:11 turned 22:14,21 23:6,11
talk 6:20 8:22 11:15 34:13 38:21,25 41:22 38:25
13:24 57:24 42:2
type 31:15
talked 59:14 tops 14:2
typically 14:14 56:10
talking 27:14 32:2,23 total 10:4,12 11:5
49:22 51:16 56:13 60:12
Tracy 27:5 33:11 41:6,7 U
tap 55:6 42:10,17,19 44:8
targets 54:18 Tracy's 42:14 Uh-huh 50:21
Taser 48:14 traffic 14:9,21,22,23 ultimately 43:22
teach 12:13 15:12,16 19:24 22:16 underneath 35:22
32:6
team 27:7 41:9 understand 3:12 6:15

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May 30, 2018 index: understanding..WHITEHEAD
9:19 19:2 35:7 36:9 veers 24:3,9 watch 5:8 27:10
43:11 49:15 63:8 vehicle 3:21 20:7 38:18, watching 29:3
understanding 42:22 24 46:16
weapon 16:7 33:22
43:5 45:24 60:16
vehicle's 49:15 39:11,19,21 40:1 50:25
undertaken 7:11 vehicles 40:20 41:4 53:19 55:8,12,18,20 56:2
unfold 15:25 53:23 58:17 59:7 57:2 61:10,11 62:20
UNIDENTIFIED 9:12 36:2 verbal 48:20 49:3,5 weapons 46:14 62:20

44:25 45:1 63:24 64:3, 50:13 wear 59:17
10,11,12
verbiage 16:19,23 18:13, wearing 4:20 14:1 18:18
uniform 14:2 47:19 48:3 23 21:13 47:18 48:18 53:3
uniforms 14:1 vicinity 18:9 21:10 32:7 54:3
unit 11:6,7,8,11,13 12:7 38:19 39:1,25 40:13 weather 57:25

13:19 14:20,23 victims 12:2 week 14:18
units 15:22 16:20 17:7, video 4:24 5:9 27:2,18, weekend 13:12
12,24 19:20 45:4 46:6 23,24 weighing 39:18
University 12:17 view 15:23 17:8 42:1,18
welfare 32:12
unknown 24:14 viewed 5:14 west 6:23,25 10:7,11
unlocks 47:14 Vincent 13:19 11:1,3 16:21 23:21 24:2
25:6,14,18,23,25 26:3,8,
unmarked 32:25 33:6 vision 40:19 41:11 42:1
58:16 59:4 15,16,24 37:1,15 40:12
UPD 22:20 25:1,8 27:5 41:2 46:15 51:8
38:20 41:8 42:10 43:13 visually 59:1
51:4 56:22 61:17 West-ish 18:8
voice 16:24 19:8,11,19
update 18:14 19:3 48:24 westbound 16:11,13
white 25:24 40:21,22
updated 18:16
43:25 44:7
upgraded 47:15
WHITEHEAD 3:3,11,17,
upwards 37:8 waited 33:8 23,25 4:3,7,12,14,18,21
Utah 10:6 12:16 waiting 22:8 5:1,3,7,11,16,18,21,24
6:2,5,9,21 7:25 8:3,8,11,
wall 49:23 50:1 15,18,23 9:4,7,9,13,16,
wanted 17:5,14,17 22:24 20,24 10:2,6,10,13,15,
26:12 31:11 32:19 52:4 20,24 11:18,22,25 12:23
Valley 12:17 15:13 33:14 13:1,5,9,14,17,25 14:8,
56:10 61:22
45:12 14 15:5,7 34:24 35:2,9,
wanting 59:9
Vanrosendahl 41:7 12,15,18,23 36:1,6,12,
warning 6:14 28:12 15,18,23 37:5,7,10,14,
veer 24:24
warranted 7:5 19,24 38:1 41:14,16
42:24 43:1,3,8,12,21,24

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May 30, 2018 Index: Whoa..yielding
44:3,7,10,12,15,18,21
45:7,9,15,20 46:1,17,23 Y
47:20,23,25 48:17,22
49:6,13,18,21,25 50:5,8, yards 54:18
14,19,22 51:12,15,17 year 11:12 61:2,4
52:3,16,22 53:3,8,10,12,
17,20 54:10,12 55:2,5,9, years 10:4,7,12 11:2,4,5,
13,16,19,23 56:4,14,16, 10 60:12
25 57:5,9 58:1,6,14,18, yelled 22:22,23 23:1
22 59:2,5,18,21 60:2,7,
yelling 27:4 42:8 49:8
17,22 61:3,6,8,12,15,21,
25 62:4,7,18,22 63:4,9, yielding 20:3
15,18,21 64:1,4,13,17,
20,25 65:2,7,10
Whoa 8:6
wife 5:8
Williams 33:12 41:7
Williams's 33:14
wind 40:3
window 24:1,23 27:18,20
28:8,10 40:6 42:5
windshield 23:25 24:23
34:15 40:4
wings 48:5
winter 61:4
wise 12:11 14:9
wondering 17:9
work 8:6 10:18,22 12:25
13:7,24 14:7
worked 10:5,6 13:15
working 13:3
worried 48:25
write 35:18 36:8,9 43:9
writing 37:16
written 7:18
wrong 11:9 19:9

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ADVANCED REPORTING SOLUTIONS

801-746-5080 office@advancedrep.com advancedrep.com A REPOR I • •

Dear Mr. Sanders,

Advanced Reporting SolutionsI I Salt Lake City Office I I

INTERVIEW WITH OFFICER JOSHUA WHITEHEAD

MOM) REPORTING SOLUTIONS

AUDIO RECORDING OF INTERVIEW

WITH OFFICER JOSHUA WHITEHEAD

GIVEN ON MAY 30, 2018

REFERENCE NUMBER IA2018-005

AT WEST JORDAN POLICE DEPARTMENT

Present during recording:

Reported by Amber Fraass RPR, CSR

Amber Fraass, RPR, CSR

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5 LT. SANDERS: All right. We are here on IA

6 number 2018-005. We are here with Josh Whitehead --

7 Officer Josh Whitehead, his attorney, Brett Rawson,

8 Sergeant Danny Benzon, Dave Quealy of the city attorney's

9 office, and I'm Lieutenant Drew Sanders. The date today

10 is May 30, 2018, the time is just after 10:15 a.m. We

11 are at the West Jordan Police Department, in the

12 administration conference room.

13 Now, before we go any further, I just want to

15 what we can expect, okay? Understand, Josh, that this is

16 an internal affairs interview, and that your statement is

17 going to be compelled as part of your condition of

18 employment. That's what -- what we have to do.

19 The contents of this interview, however, will

20 not be shared in any form with the criminal

21 investigators. You can talk to your attorney alone at

22 any time. If you feel like you need to do that, the

23 three of us will get up and we will take our recording

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You can ask questions. And there's going to

2 be a space at the end for any questions you have.

3 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Got you.

4 LT. SANDERS: Now, this is a key, here, I

5 can't remember and I don't know are very legitimate

6 answers, okay? If -- there's no shame there. What we

7 don't want is what you -- probably have already been told

8 by your attorney is please do not try to guess or just

9 fill in any memory gaps with information you don't know

11 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Okay.

12 LT. SANDERS: Now, understand that as part of

13 an IA investigation we have to audio record it, which is

14 being done. You'll note that Sergeant Benzon also has a

15 recording device, that's only because believe it or not,

16 failures occur with equipment.

17 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Backup plan.

18 LT. SANDERS: So. Now, before we go into the

19 actual interview itself, I just need to ascertain some

20 foundational information. Now, can you describe any of

21 the recording devices in your vehicle? And were they

23 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Yes.

24 LT. SANDERS: What -- what have you got?

25 OFFICER WHITEHEAD: Meaning, like, what

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