Healthy Disagreement
Healthy Disagreement
Healthy Disagreement
Today I’m continuing a summer sermon series on the Core Values of Chain of Lakes Church.
One reason I love our congregation is I love our Purpose Statement and Core Values. Our Core
Values are reason enough for each of us to let our friends know that something special is taking
place at Chain of Lakes Church. When people hear what we stand for, they are going to want to
be with us.
Let me remind you, a Core Value is a principle, quality, belief, and or/attitude that is
foundational to our community.
One way we’ll use our Core Values is to evaluate our ministry. For example we are really
excited about our Vacation Bible School that will take place starting two weeks from tomorrow.
How are we going to evaluate if Vacation Bible School is successful.
We set a goal of 25 kids attending, which actually might be a bit low. How else are we going to
evaluate our Vacation Bible School? We’ll evaluate it by asking how well we displayed our
Core Values in Vacation Bible School. We’ll ask the question, How well did we do at sharing
hospitality in Bible School? How relevant were we? In what ways did we model acceptance?
How successful were we at having an Outward Focus?
We can use our Core Values to evaluate every part of our ministry.
I want to encourage you to get out the devotion/sermon notes/prayer sheet that is in the bulletin.
Each week I share a devotion that relates to the theme of the day. I encourage you to use it. This
devotion is an opportunity for you to read the Scriptures every day. It takes about 10 minutes to
do. Read the Scripture—maybe more than once—read the devotion—pray for the people who
are listed in the Prayer sheet. You will be blessed if you use it.
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Today we’re looking at the Core Value of “Healthy Disagreement.” I might have more
passion for living out this Core Value in our congregation than any other Value. I love all eight
of our Values, but there is a lot at stake in how well we do at living “Healthy disagreement.”
We speak the truth, but we always speak the truth in love. When we disagree we do it face-to-
face. When we disagree at meetings, we frequently will say “let’s pray about it and find the
mind of Christ together.” When we disagree we’ll continue to love the people with whom we
disagree. In fact we find ourselves saying, “even though I disagree with this person on this issue
I really love that person. When we disagree we do it around the table. We declare the parking
lot of the church a no meeting zone. You know what I mean. Too often the parking lot is the
place where the real meeting takes place because no one wanted to disagree around the table. At
Chain of Lakes let’s declare the parking lot as a no meeting zone. When we disagree we come to
realize the true biblical teaching that there is always more that brings us together than separates
us.
Is this easy? No. Our world has become deeply polarized. This polarization seeps into
the church.
This past Tuesday night six of us staffed a booth at the Night to Unite festival that the
city of Lexington put on. Our booth was in the parking lot of the Lovell building. It was a
lovely evening. At our booth kids spun a wheel for prizes, and we asked adults to fill out a
survey sharing what they see as the needs in the community. Towards the end of the evening a
couple came up to our booth. They spent some time talking to John & Gloria Ivers. Then they
started talking to me. We talked for about 10 minutes. We could tell that the couple had some
level of interest in Chain of Lakes. Then the person “okay.” It’s like the person said, “enough of
the niceness, let’s get serious.” At the end of the conversation the person asked me the
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Presbyterian position on gay marriage. I shared the position. Presbyterians haven’t adopted gay
marriage. We define marriage as a covenant between a man and a woman. At the General
Assembly last month there was a push to accept gay marriage. It wasn’t approved. I shared with
the person that all main-line denominations (Lutherans, Methodists, UCC, & Presbyterians will
continue to wrestle with this issue. Like all main-line denominations Presbyterians have people
who are passionately for gay marriage; we have people who are passionately against gay
marriage.
What’s important for me is we model healthy disagreement for the world. The world is
looking for a community of people who encourage discussion while valuing all opinions. The
world is looking for a community of people who speak the truth in love, who treat each other
respectfully and with dignity, and people who seek to remain in community with each other.
Our beliefs about God and about any issue are important. And just as important is how
We had a group who put together our eight Core Values and the explanations for each
Core Value. We struggled with Healthy Disagreement. Because I am so passionate about this
value, I was the one who wanted it as one of our Core Values. I received some pushback. We
had healthy disagreement about whether to have Healthy disagreement as a Core Value. We
We will always encourage discussion while valuing different opinions. When we disagree we
will speak the truth in love, treat others respectfully, without conflict, and always seek to stay in
community.
Finally!
SLIDE: Healthy Disagreement
When we disagree we will encourage discussion while valuing all opinions. We will speak truth
in love, treat others respectfully with dignity, and seek to remain in community.
A long time ago I served as the Youth Director of a Presbyterian church in Babylon, New
York. The church was located on Long Island. My supervisor was a man by the name of Ken
Cragg. He said something that has always stayed with me. He said that when people disagree
poorly they become one of two animals. They either become this:
SLIDE: skunk
SLIDE: turtle
When we disagree we often feel threatened. What does a skunk do when it feels
We probably know of people who spew all over when they disagree. The person is going
to share his or her opinion no matter what the cost. The person can’t stop talking. The person
doesn’t listen well. The person probably isn’t going to change his or her opinion. When others
walk out of the room after disagreeing with the person, it wouldn’t be surprising if they carry a
What does a turtle do when it disagrees? It goes into its shell. We probably know of
people who go into their shell when a disagreement takes place. The person is present physically
in the conversation, but the person will hardly say a word. The person won’t share his or her
opinion. The person won’t share his or her emotions. It’s as if the person wants to hide from the
conversation.
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Question: Do you think people in Minnesota traditionally run the risk of being a
I think our turtle nature comes from our desire for Minnesota Nice. I’ve lived in
Minnesota most of my life. I love this state and its values and the people who live here. Even
though my Dad was born and grew up in Iowa he came over from the dark side—so both of my
parents embody the value of Minnesota nice. One of the most powerful statements of Minnesota
Nice is the following statement. Fill in the blank. “If you can’t say something nice, …”
If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. This statement was ingrained
There’s a lot to like about this statement. If we follow it we will be polite people and
courteous people. However let me ask you this. Was Jesus always nice?
No, Jesus was not always nice. Remember the story of Jesus overturning the tables of the
money changers in the Temple. According to John’s version of the story he took a whip of cords
and used it. He poured out the coins of the money changers. Jesus was like a tornado causing
SLIDE: Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the
cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence (Matthew 23:25)
SLIDE: Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed
tombs, which on the outside look beautiful but inside they are full of the bones of the dead and of
al kinds of filth (Matthew 23:27)
Remember Jesus’ teaching on the summary of the law. Did Jesus say, “be nice to God with all
your heart and soul and mind and be nice to your neighbor as you are nice to yourself?” No. He
said “Love God with all your heart and soul and mind and love your neighbor as you love
yourself.”
You might ask the question “what’s the difference between loving people and being
nice?”
We can be nice to someone and not love someone with our heart. When we love our
neighbor in Christian love we go out of our way to help the person. We would sacrifice our own
interests to help. When we love someone we give our heart to others. God wants us to love
When we’re nice we follow the conventions of politeness. I can be nice to you, but not
give you my heart. I can be courteous to you, but not be interested in how you are doing as a
person. I can be polite to you, but not take the time to learn about what is happening on the
inside.
To put it most simply being nice is following a convention; loving someone involves
giving our heart. At Chain of Lakes we are called to love people. That’s why when we
Let me start to wrap up by sharing two points about healthy disagreement. They are
meant for turtles. You might want to write these down. The first point is to share the truth in
love. In the reading from Ephesians we heard this phrase, speak the truth in love. Ephesians has
two of the most powerful chapters in the Bible—chapter 2 and chapter 4. We’re going to read
chapter 4 in our devotion this week. In this chapter the writer shared some beautiful ways to live
SLIDE: With all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love,
making every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. (Ephesians 4:2)
These words share better than I can how to disagree with someone.
SLIDE: But speaking the truth in love, we must grow up in every way into him who is the
head, into Christ. (Ephesians 4:15)
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This passage shares with us that we are not complete people unless we speak the truth in
love. What’s interesting to me is this passage teaches us that if we don’t speak the truth in love
we are behaving like children. We grow up when we speak the truth in love. By speaking the
truth in love we become the people whom God desires for us to be.
Please notice—we’re not called to just share the truth. We’re not called to be a skunk
just spewing our opinions as we please. We’re called to share the truth in love.
Second point is I want to share is I want to introduce a term into our community. That
term is push back. Say those words with me. I realize that speaking the truth in love is hard.
When we disagree I encourage all of us to start our statement with the words “push back.” Say
someone says at a meeting that the sky is green. I’m not going to say, “how dumb can you be.”
I’m not going to say, “are you color blind?” I’m not going to withhold the truth. I’m going to
respond to this statement by saying, “let me push back by saying the sky is blue.”
Let me challenge you to use this term “push back” this week. Use it every day. When
you disagree start with the words, “push back.” Let me push back.
We’re a stronger community when people push back. After worship I’m going to talk
about our new publicity plan that has been developed. If there is something you are uncertain
about, I encourage you to push back. Through push back our ideas are refined like a metal going
through fire.
You might think, “I don’t want to disagree with the pastor.” I encourage you to disagree
with me—in a healthy way. You don’t need my permission to push back, but I’m giving you
permission to push back on any idea that I share. I challenge you to use the term, “push back”
this week.
Communities can be scarred when the truth is not spoken in love. When I was at
Plainview we did a huge building campaign. It was a 1.1 million dollar campaign. The chair of
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our building campaign was a man by the name of George. Of course this isn’t his name. George
A couple years after we moved into the building we got a request from the Migrant
Council in Plainview. I knew about the request because I was on the board of the Migrant
Council. The Migrant Council asked if the church would host Migrant Head Start for the
summer. The program would take over every part of the building except for the sanctuary. The
church would have been paid rent, they would have gotten a free commercial refrigerator, and
they would have provided a badly needed space for the Migrants of the community.
This was something new for the congregation. We had never received a request like this
before. We asked our Building/Grounds team to make a recommendation to the Session about
what the church should do. George was the co-chair of the team. We decided to have a
We had the meeting. Right at the beginning of the meeting George’s wife stood up and
made an impassioned plea against hosting Migrant Head Start. All of a sudden we had a verbal
fight on our hands. Many people agreed with George’s wife. They didn’t want to give up the
building for Migrant Head Start. Some people got up to defend the idea. All of us who were
leading the meeting were bewildered. We didn’t see this fight coming on. I knew we were in
trouble because after the meeting during our time of fellowship people stopped talking when I
came into the room. That was the only time that happened in 16 years of ministry. A deep sense
of anxiety came over the congregation. I was told later that after the meeting the phone lines
The next day I called a meeting of our two Building and Grounds chairs. I told them I
was completely surprised by what had happened. Then George said something I won’t forget.
He said, “I knew my wife was angry and was going to speak against the proposal.” I couldn’t
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believe it. Why didn’t you say anything? If I had known that this conflict would erupt I would
have cancelled the meeting. We would have figured out another way to handle the decision.
George withheld the truth from us. Because of that we had a huge mess to clean up.
Eventually we were able to clean up the mess. We put together a task force who spent
two months working on the issue. They listened to people from both sides of the issue;
eventually they made a recommendation that the congregation not host Migrant Head Start; the
Session voted to agree with the recommendation. Eventually the anxiety level went down. It
was a lot of work. We could have saved so much time if George had spoke the truth in love.
Today we’re coming to the table. Jesus died so we can love each other. A deep part of
loving each other is learning how to disagree in a healthy way. We grow into Christ when we do
it. As we come to the Table let us reflect on how we can become adults in our relationship with
Christ.