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Sony RX100 VII Premium Compact Camera with 1.0-type stacked CMOS sensor (DSCRX100M7)

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Compatible Mountings Zeiss
Aspect Ratio 16:9, 1:1, 3:2, 4:3
Photo Sensor Technology CMOS
Supported File Format JPEG, Raw
Image Stabilization Digital, Optical
Maximum Focal Length 72 Millimeters
Optical Zoom 8 x
Maximum Aperture 4.5 f
Expanded ISO Minimum 64
Metering Description Average, Center-Weighted Average, Multi, Spot

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  • 20. 1MP 1. 0 Type stacked CMOS sensor, Zeiss Vario Sonnar T 24 200 millimeter F2. 8 F4. 5 large aperture high magnification zoom lens
  • 0. 02 sec. High AF speed, 357 point focal plane Phase detection AF and 425 point contrast detection AF
  • Up to 20 fps blackout free shooting, using up to 60 times/sec. AF/AE calculations. Diopter Adjustment: -4.0 to +3.0 m-1. Operating Temperature- 0 degrees C.- +40 degrees C. / 32 degrees F. - 104 degrees F
  • AI based real time tracking for stills and movies, and touch tracking. Real time eye AF for human (stills and movies), and for animal (stills only)
  • 4K video with us log3 and Interval Shooting. Microphone jack and vertical position data recording. Active mode image stabilization in 4K video recording, and Movie Edit add on compatible

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Sony RX100 VII

Pro features in a to-go package

Pro-level features for both still shots and movies will meet the demands of professional photographers, creators and vloggers.

Broad zoom range and superior speed performance

The video showcases the product in use.The video guides you through product setup.The video compares multiple products.The video shows the product being unpacked.

Inside its compact body, RX100 VII has everything it takes to deliver stellar images. The 24–200 mm2 zoom lens is complemented by 0.02-sec.3 super fast AF, new Real-time Tracking and Real-time Eye AF, plus enhanced image stabilization and an external microphone jack for high-quality movie shooting.

Features

vlogging

Advanced features for creators

Even when you're walking, image stabilization "Active" mode produces smooth 4K video.

enhanced image stabilization

Enhanced image stabilization

Capture smooth 4K video even while walking with newly supported "Active" mode image stabilization.

mic input

External mic input for sound

Despite its compact size, the RX100 VII includes a microphone input15. The 3.5-mm input enables professional audio capture for your movies and vlogs.

interval shooting

Time-lapse movies

The Interval Shooting19 function performs continuous shooting with a set interval of 1 to 60 seconds with AE tracking.

Features

sensor

Sensor designed for speed

The newly developed 1.0-type stacked CMOS image sensor and the latest BIONZ X image-processing engine open new dimensions in speed and image quality.

tiltable

Tilt display for easy framing

The high-resolution, 921k-dot 3.0-type LCD monitor tilts up appr 180° and down appr 90°, making it easy to frame or shoot from high and low angles.

electronic viewfinder

Push electronic viewfinder

The XGA OLED Tru-Finder has a resolution of approx. 2.35 million dots for bright, detailed and high-contrast viewing. Accessed easily w a single push.

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Touch operation

Simply tap the screen to initiate Real-time Tracking for either stills or movies. Touch Focus, Touch Pad and Touch Shutter are also available.

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4.3 out of 5 stars
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4.7 out of 5 stars
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Model Name
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Description
Premium Compact Camera Rechargeable Battery Pack USB Travel Charger/Battery Kit Mic for Multi Interface Shoe Wireless Microphone Jacket Case for RX100 series
Dimensions
4" x 2.29" x 1.68" 1.19" x .37" x 1.68" 3" x 2.5" x 1.5" 3.03" x 3" x 1.38" 4.62"x 3.25" x 2.12"
Weight
Approx. 10.7 oz (302 g) Approx. .88 oz / 25 g Approx. .06 oz / 15 g Approx. 3.53 oz / 100 g Approx. 1oz / 26g Approx. 3.4 oz / 96 g
Compatibility with RX100 VII
n/a yes yes yes yes yes

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2 Angle of view (35 mm format equivalent).

4 When using the electronic shutter; effective when the shutter speed is 1/60 or above.

7 Among fixed lens digital cameras with 1.0-type sensor. As of Jul. 2019, based on Sony research.

9 Real-time Eye AF for Animals supports still images only and cannot be used in combination with tracking. Does not work with some types of animal. Focusing may not perform well depending on scene and subject conditions.

10 Approximate effective megapixels.

15 Attaching a microphone without the Shooting Grip Kit requires an optional accessory.

19 Wi-Fi does not work during interval shooting.

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    Sony RX100 VII premium compact camera, 20. 1MP 1. 0-Type stacked CMOS sensor, 24-200mm zoom lens 0. 02-Sec. Fast AF, real-time tracking and real-time eye AF for human and animal, blackout-free continuous shooting at up to 20Fps, single burst shooting at 90Fps, 4K HDR (HLG) video recording, active mode Steady Shot for 4K movie, microphone jack.

    Customer reviews

    4.3 out of 5 stars
    591 global ratings

    Customers say

    Customers like the picture quality, size, and video quality of the digital camera. They mention it takes terrific pictures in well-lit situations, is very compact, and easy to travel with. Some also say the zoom range is excellent. However, some customers have different opinions on value for money, ease of use, and functionality.

    AI-generated from the text of customer reviews

    54 customers mention "Picture quality"41 positive13 negative

    Customers like the picture quality of the camera. They mention it takes amazing shots, has great autofocus, and excellent battery life. Some say the detail is excellent and at night time they can still see everything very clearly.

    "...Sound, picture and video quality is awesome!" Read more

    "...cameras I have, but in good lighting (always a key) the image quality is amazing...." Read more

    "...Great pics and autofocus, no complaints" Read more

    "...The camera takes excellent photos and I was happy with it. Until two days ago...." Read more

    43 customers mention "Size"37 positive6 negative

    Customers like the size of the digital camera. They say it's very compact, satisfying their need for pocketability, and easy to travel with.

    "This camera is fantastic! size is great, all the features of a large camera. Sound, picture and video quality is awesome!" Read more

    "...As expected, I can see this camera fit perfectly in my travel kit...." Read more

    "...THE GOOD: small size, easy USB charging, rapid startup, very good image quality, super reliable focus for quick shots, great telephoto zoom, good..." Read more

    "It's slightly wider than it's predecessor but still very compact...." Read more

    34 customers mention "Quality"34 positive0 negative

    Customers are satisfied with the quality of the camera. They mention it's fantastic, has amazing utility, and quality for such a tiny camera. They also say it's an engineering marvel, reliable, and durable.

    "This camera is fantastic! size is great, all the features of a large camera. Sound, picture and video quality is awesome!" Read more

    "...Same high quality.Image quality: 8/10I love it...." Read more

    "...USB charging, rapid startup, very good image quality, super reliable focus for quick shots, great telephoto zoom, good exposure/iso algorithms...." Read more

    "Cheaper than any camera site. This camera is great quality." Read more

    21 customers mention "Video quality"21 positive0 negative

    Customers are satisfied with the video quality of the camera. They mention it's outstanding, has much higher picture quality, and videos look nice and clear in sunlight.

    "...size is great, all the features of a large camera. Sound, picture and video quality is awesome!" Read more

    "...Why? Because it is a 20MP pocket camera, that has 4k recording with audio input. As well as an awesome focal range...." Read more

    "...THE GOOD: small size, easy USB charging, rapid startup, very good image quality, super reliable focus for quick shots, great telephoto zoom, good..." Read more

    "...of features, that I'm still learning (or not), but either way it's very sharp and very fast. I would certainty recommend it." Read more

    18 customers mention "Zoom range"13 positive5 negative

    Customers like the zoom range of the camera. They mention it provides an amazing zoom range in a pocketable camera. Some say the optical zoom is 8X, which is pretty good.

    "...As well as an awesome focal range. Starting at a wide 24mm to a 200mm telephoto range. Whats not to like? Its awesome...." Read more

    "...very good image quality, super reliable focus for quick shots, great telephoto zoom, good exposure/iso algorithms...." Read more

    "The Sony camera is great except for one thing. The zoom isn’t enough for what I’m taking pictures of...." Read more

    "...I was able to zoom in and out and camera all the details that I wanted to...." Read more

    20 customers mention "Value for money"8 positive12 negative

    Customers have mixed opinions about the value for money of the digital camera. Some mention it's worth the price to move up from the previous model, while others say it's expensive.

    "This is a real winner. It is pricey, but I think it’s worth it for my uses...." Read more

    "Ok, so to keep it simple. As I stated, its worth the price of $1200. Why? Because it is a 20MP pocket camera, that has 4k recording with audio input...." Read more

    "This camera is a bit too expensive, but it is amazing. Even in a SmallRig cage it fit into my front pocket. I used a Peak Design strap with it...." Read more

    "...For me...this camera is worth the price. Whether I keep my A7III is up in the air right now...." Read more

    14 customers mention "Functionality"8 positive6 negative

    Customers have mixed opinions about the functionality of the digital camera. Some mention it works well, while others say it doesn't work correctly again immediately when the batteries are removed.

    "...The ability to flip it to "auto" and expect good results is very helpful, given the confusing menus. Video sharpness and focus are excellent...." Read more

    "...support for things like WiFi and Bluetooth is a downright LIE, they don't work, at least not without a lot of pain and frustration...." Read more

    "...on a trip to Portugal for a week and it performed as I expected, amazingly well...." Read more

    "...I think it works great as I didn’t appear to be bobbing up and down in the video...." Read more

    13 customers mention "Ease of use"6 positive7 negative

    Customers have mixed opinions about the ease of use of the digital camera. Some mention it's easy to transfer photos to their computers, while others say it's difficult to figure out following the manual. They also mention the short explanations and confusing terminology.

    "...BTW, there is also no written manual. Besides those two major things above which were my biggest pet peeve, this is an amazing camera...." Read more

    "...Try Fuji cameras instead, easier to use and better image quality for the same price." Read more

    "...the photo taken, it made the image in the viewfinder more fuzzy and not as clear...." Read more

    "...The menu is a little tricky to navigate at first, but it is easy once you learn it...." Read more

    LOVING IT SO FAR
    4 out of 5 stars
    LOVING IT SO FAR
    I won't mention anything that you can possibly find from reading the description and I'm certainly not a professional photographer, more of an amateur but in order to preserve all my memories, I need my photos to look great.I currently own the Sony A7R III, with a preorder in place for the A7R IV, but since I travel pretty often, I wanted something that was a bit smaller. Small enough to fit in my pocket and not attract too much attention. The Sony A7R just looks expensive, and combined with the 24-70mm 2.8f it can get heavy after walking around a city for a couple of hours.This is my very first Sony compact camera so I can't compare it to any other, but what I can say is that it takes really great photos (at least outdoors in natural light). I'm attaching two that I took earlier of my cat and backyard. I've been playing around with the settings and from what I've gathered, even in manual mode, there was no way for me to make my fstop constant, although I could change my shutter speed, ISO etc. If there's a way I'm sure I'll find it, or I'd like to know how to do so.While the photos look amazing in the natural afternoon light, I also love the option of having a built-in dedicated flash although I personally don't ever use a flash. The photos look sharp in the camera and also once downloaded. So why did I give it 4 stars. Because of what it didn't have.Cons.1. Camera because of it's size can get real slippery after using for a while so I had to end up buying the attachment grip. While not overly expensive, it would have been great to have it, especially when you're paying over $1k for the camera itself.2. Sony didn't include a real battery charger, but instead one that connects to a USB so you technically have to plug it into your computer to charge. Since I have a new MacBook Pro that wasn't possible for me, so once again I had to spend money on a real charger.BTW, there is also no written manual. Besides those two major things above which were my biggest pet peeve, this is an amazing camera. I also purchased the shooting grip so I can take it with me and take my own pics without having to ask someone to do so, and also purchased the camera case.If you're looking for something REALLY compact, and you're tired of walking around with your mirrorless or DSLR, then I say get this. I'll update this if I run into any other issue along the way, but so far I'm loving it.Update: Took it on a trip to Portugal for a week and it performed as I expected, amazingly well. Battery life was good for a couple of hours after taking a few hundred photos, but I purchased another just to be on the safe side. I prefer shooting in Aperture Priority mode, so set the aperture and had everything else on auto and my photos all turned out great. I attached the camera grip and was able to take selfies without having to ask anyone to take my photo.Camera because of its size is the perfect travel camera and now I may just end up canceling my preorder for the M4. I was able to zoom in and out and camera all the details that I wanted to. I've attached a few more pics that I took, one of a statue at 24mm and another up close to get more details.I still, however, won't adjust my rating to a 5. Someone mentioned that they received a wall plug in their camera kit, but mine was missing thus the reason I had to purchase the battery charger. And once again after walking around for a while in the heat and holding this "tiny" camera, it does get slippery, so I recommend the attachment grip. I bought the cheap sony camera case for under $15 and it fit in there perfectly with the attached grip, extra battery with no issues.
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    Reviewed in the United States on November 3, 2024
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    This camera is fantastic! size is great, all the features of a large camera. Sound, picture and video quality is awesome!
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    Reviewed in the United States on September 10, 2019
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    Ok, so to keep it simple. As I stated, its worth the price of $1200. Why? Because it is a 20MP pocket camera, that has 4k recording with audio input. As well as an awesome focal range. Starting at a wide 24mm to a 200mm telephoto range. Whats not to like? Its awesome. Don't expect bird photography though.

    Now the lengthy part...

    I'm coming from owning a fair share of cameras as a professional photographer. As of this review, I have a Sony A7m2 with the kit lens, but also the 70200g f4 lens, plus other various lenses. The Sony a6000 + nex 5n, RX100m3, Fuji X100F. Further down in the review III will be the RX100m3 and VII is the one the review is for.Why does this become part of the review? Its because I can put this camera against some stiff competition before writing this review. As far as usefulness, I think this camera is 10/10. I used to carry the RX100m3 along everywhere with me because of its size. I kept it, for the fact that it has f1.8 at its widest vs 2.8 of the RX100m7. Now I carry the III and the VII everywhere. However, the one I have used primarily these past few weeks have been the VII because of its reach. I know 90% of my photos never exceed the range of 70mm. Found this out a 3rd time because of a 2 month trip to Viet Nam and Japan where I took only the III and X100F. During that trip I only encountered maybe 5 times max where I wish I had 200mm reach. Well, now I have that, and more. I'll upload photos later after this review.

    Build quality: 10/10
    Is basically the same as you can expect from Sony and its previous RX models. Same high quality.

    Image quality: 8/10
    I love it. Obviously it won't compete with the bigger cameras I have, but in good lighting (always a key) the image quality is amazing. The range this camera provides helps in making better bokeh portraits compared to the 24-70mm range of previous models (not including the VI). *my opinion you may not agree

    Video: N/A
    Honestly, not much a video person. Having an option to add a mic really pushed me to buying this camera. That was the selling point to me. Otherwise I wouldn't have bought this since I didn't buy the VI either.

    Where does this camera fit in?
    As expected, I can see this camera fit perfectly in my travel kit. Where 90% of the time I would use it while traveling, only pulling out the III when I go walking around at night or poorly lit conditions.
    If you know the limitations of this camera it will not let you down. Just, as explained earlier, it isn't going to be good for wildlife, but as a portraits and everyday camera. I think it nails it.

    What I wish:
    Weather Sealing! C'mon Sony, you pulled through with the mic input. I want to use these cameras in raining conditions. I'm a firm believer of what these tiny guys can do.
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    5.0 out of 5 stars Well Worth the Pricetag
    Reviewed in the United States on September 10, 2019
    Ok, so to keep it simple. As I stated, its worth the price of $1200. Why? Because it is a 20MP pocket camera, that has 4k recording with audio input. As well as an awesome focal range. Starting at a wide 24mm to a 200mm telephoto range. Whats not to like? Its awesome. Don't expect bird photography though.

    Now the lengthy part...

    I'm coming from owning a fair share of cameras as a professional photographer. As of this review, I have a Sony A7m2 with the kit lens, but also the 70200g f4 lens, plus other various lenses. The Sony a6000 + nex 5n, RX100m3, Fuji X100F. Further down in the review III will be the RX100m3 and VII is the one the review is for.Why does this become part of the review? Its because I can put this camera against some stiff competition before writing this review. As far as usefulness, I think this camera is 10/10. I used to carry the RX100m3 along everywhere with me because of its size. I kept it, for the fact that it has f1.8 at its widest vs 2.8 of the RX100m7. Now I carry the III and the VII everywhere. However, the one I have used primarily these past few weeks have been the VII because of its reach. I know 90% of my photos never exceed the range of 70mm. Found this out a 3rd time because of a 2 month trip to Viet Nam and Japan where I took only the III and X100F. During that trip I only encountered maybe 5 times max where I wish I had 200mm reach. Well, now I have that, and more. I'll upload photos later after this review.

    Build quality: 10/10
    Is basically the same as you can expect from Sony and its previous RX models. Same high quality.

    Image quality: 8/10
    I love it. Obviously it won't compete with the bigger cameras I have, but in good lighting (always a key) the image quality is amazing. The range this camera provides helps in making better bokeh portraits compared to the 24-70mm range of previous models (not including the VI). *my opinion you may not agree

    Video: N/A
    Honestly, not much a video person. Having an option to add a mic really pushed me to buying this camera. That was the selling point to me. Otherwise I wouldn't have bought this since I didn't buy the VI either.

    Where does this camera fit in?
    As expected, I can see this camera fit perfectly in my travel kit. Where 90% of the time I would use it while traveling, only pulling out the III when I go walking around at night or poorly lit conditions.
    If you know the limitations of this camera it will not let you down. Just, as explained earlier, it isn't going to be good for wildlife, but as a portraits and everyday camera. I think it nails it.

    What I wish:
    Weather Sealing! C'mon Sony, you pulled through with the mic input. I want to use these cameras in raining conditions. I'm a firm believer of what these tiny guys can do.
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    Reviewed in the United States on September 3, 2024
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    Having a pocket camera like this comes in handy at times when you don't want to take all your other gear and want to travel light.
    Great pics and autofocus, no complaints
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    Reviewed in the United States on October 29, 2019
    Set: Camera OnlyVerified Purchase
    I have much camera experience and chose this as a travel camera before a big family trip. First off, Amazon needs to step up their shipping/packing game. My camera arrived in a larger Amazon box, with no padding whatsoever, so that the Sony box (itself with no padding except the cardboard box) could flop around several inches in each direction during shipping. Concerned, I contacted Amazon and the rep expressed agreement that this was not good, and helpfully arranged a replacement, saying he would add a note to improved padding. However, the second camera arrived in exactly the same type of unpadded box. Sony customer support provided no useful infomration about the standards they require for shipping this camera. With no time to find another, I opted to use the second camera on the trip. This review is about that second camera, which showed no obvious damage. I have no idea if the image quality or software was slightly impaired by shipping damage.
    THE GOOD: small size, easy USB charging, rapid startup, very good image quality, super reliable focus for quick shots, great telephoto zoom, good exposure/iso algorithms. The ability to flip it to "auto" and expect good results is very helpful, given the confusing menus. Video sharpness and focus are excellent.
    THE NOT GOOD: believe it when others say the menus and interface are poor: They are atrocious. Do not expect to take this camera out of the box and be able to figure some things out, even if you are experienced. This is my first Sony, though. Even after downloading the manual to my phone for reference, I spent a ton of time trying to make simple adjustments and many times just gave up. If I tried this in the field, the thing I wanted to photo or video was already gone. You WILL lose shots trying to make adjustments on the fly. Also, the camera suffered occasional little glitches, eg the "panorama" setting kept spontaneously switching the "arrow" direction from horizontal (normal) to vertical (useless for landscapes) which required many menu seaches to correct.
    Advice: buy the optional Sony grip right away and put it on. It transforms the camera holding experience from miserable to very good. Then spend many hours setting up each button on the camera to have your defaults ready for each shooting need. Good luck with that job.
    Would I buy it again? Maybe, but during my trip I often wished for a Canon G5X M2 with easier interface and faster lens.
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    Sophie
    5.0 out of 5 stars Small but mighty
    Reviewed in Canada on August 9, 2024
    Set: Camera OnlyVerified Purchase
    I have a Nikon D850 but I wanted something small to bring to events being that DSLR's aren't allowed without media passes in some cases. This camera does it. The quality is quite amazing for a small digital camera. The zoom is great considering it's size (which is what I was after). It's quick and it still acts as a DSLR with RAW capabilities and complete manual adjustments.

    The video quality is also super impressive.

    Well worth the money. Camera arrived quick and in perfect condition. Thank you !
    Eloisa Brasil
    5.0 out of 5 stars Ótima camera
    Reviewed in Brazil on May 9, 2024
    Set: w/ Shooting Grip KitVerified Purchase
    Otima!!!!
    Arjun Das
    5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing point and shoot camera
    Reviewed in India on July 8, 2023
    Set: Camera OnlyVerified Purchase
    This little camera from Sony is an awesome imaging device. Though it is sold as a point-and-shoot camera, it has full manual controls over settings. Some interesting facts about this camera are -
    1. It can shoot even in RAW-only mode.
    2. Impressive colour reproduction and dynamic range, particularly if one considers its small sensor size.
    3. Auto-focus system is very quick and accurate .
    4. Very high burst mode suitable for BIF or sports photography.
    5. Very handy zoom range for shooting any kind of photography, except wildlife.

    There are some cons as well. They are
    1. High ISO performance is not so good.
    2. Menu navigation for changing settings sometimes can become cumbersome.
    3. Buttons are too small to find out quickly, though its not a deal breaker.
    4. Price is a little high. Anything around 60K would have been appropriate.

    Overall, this pocket camera is good for someone who is starting photography and who travels a lot.
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    Arjun Das
    5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing point and shoot camera
    Reviewed in India on July 8, 2023
    This little camera from Sony is an awesome imaging device. Though it is sold as a point-and-shoot camera, it has full manual controls over settings. Some interesting facts about this camera are -
    1. It can shoot even in RAW-only mode.
    2. Impressive colour reproduction and dynamic range, particularly if one considers its small sensor size.
    3. Auto-focus system is very quick and accurate .
    4. Very high burst mode suitable for BIF or sports photography.
    5. Very handy zoom range for shooting any kind of photography, except wildlife.

    There are some cons as well. They are
    1. High ISO performance is not so good.
    2. Menu navigation for changing settings sometimes can become cumbersome.
    3. Buttons are too small to find out quickly, though its not a deal breaker.
    4. Price is a little high. Anything around 60K would have been appropriate.

    Overall, this pocket camera is good for someone who is starting photography and who travels a lot.
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    Comprador
    5.0 out of 5 stars Excelente Cámara
    Reviewed in Mexico on August 14, 2020
    Set: w/ Shooting Grip KitVerified Purchase
    La compre para un viaje. Toma fotos increibles
    Chook!
    5.0 out of 5 stars Big Quality in a small package.
    Reviewed in Australia on August 2, 2021
    Set: Camera OnlyVerified Purchase
    Once you can get your mind around the limitless possibilities in the settings you can take advantage of the fantastic lens sharpness that are
    Legendary for Zeiss lenses!
    A fantastic small compact camera with quality that can out perform many of the larger format rival brands.
    Although the camera Is expensive l do feel that is worth the money in my opinion!