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graphic attributes: url obligatory even in the presence of facs #2570

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tuurma opened this issue Jul 5, 2024 · 3 comments
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graphic attributes: url obligatory even in the presence of facs #2570

tuurma opened this issue Jul 5, 2024 · 3 comments
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tuurma commented Jul 5, 2024 •
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Dear all, in a recent example I've been trying to have what seemed a more logical and streamlined method of referencing image zones in the transcription, using @facs attribute on lines and larger regions of the facsimile page. There are doodled elements in the source documents, encoded with figure/graphic. Nevertheless, on the graphic element, the @url attribute is required, even if @facs is present. Since the two play effectively the same role, I think either should be sufficient, therefore the schema should be adjusted accordingly.

See the <graphic facs="#facs_188_line_13_region_1"/> line in the excerpt below

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<div>
	<head>
		<lb facs='#facs_188_line_11' n='N011'/>22 jeudi. s. Honorat.
	</head>
	<p>
		<lb facs='#facs_188_line_12' n='N012'/>Σήμερον περὶ τὴν ἑβδόμην ὥραν θάνατος τοῦ πολυκλαύτου ράπτου
		<lb facs='#facs_188_line_13' n='N013'/>
			<figure>
				<graphic facs="#facs_188_line_13_region_1"/>
				<figDesc>Hand drawn cross</figDesc>
			</figure>μετὰ δὲ τὴν βιβλιοθήκην ἦν παρά τε τῷ Πελισιὲρ καὶ ἠγόρασα
		<lb facs='#facs_188_line_14' n='N014'/>τὸ καλούμενον Ἀγένδα. Οἴκοι δὲ, ὑετοῦ ἀνὰ πᾶσαν
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@sydb sydb added this to the Guidelines 4.9.0 milestone Sep 3, 2024
@sydb sydb added the Status: Go label Sep 3, 2024
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I can implement this, but has it been sufficiently discussed by council? The Status Go was added without prior discussion as far as I can tell? @ebeshero

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lb42 commented Sep 30, 2024

This example makes me feel uneasy because @FACS and @url for me have subtly different semantics. @FACS points to something outside the original source -- i.e. (a bit of) a modern digitization of it, whereas @uri points to something that represents a constituent of the original source. If you left out the thing pointed at by the @uri, then you would not have transcribed the whole document. If you left out all the @FACS attributes, you would still have a complete transcription.

Also, what's being proposed here? Permit @FACS to function as if it were @uri when attached to and img?

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I think we had intended to discuss this in the Sept Council meeting but didn’t get to it. So let’s change status to Needs Discussion make sure it’s on the F2F agenda for next week!

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