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#meta 2019-01-02

2019-01-02 UTC
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@lindner
Finally! a way to re-platform your Google+ data before the April 2019 shutdown. https://gplus-exporter.friendsplus.me/ exports to Wordpress, Blogger and other places. Hoping that this allows for communities to transition to new hosting or for individuals to go #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/1080324565824204800)
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[tantek]
what is Google Plus
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Loqi
Google+ (AKA Google Plus, GPlus, or G+) is a soon to be shut down (2019 April) social content hosting silo operated by Google, similar in many respects to Facebook, and formerly a centralized Google identity service (since transitioned to Google Identity Platform https://indieweb.org/Google_Plus
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robertvanbregt.nl
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[tantek]
Google_Plus << https://gplus-exporter.friendsplus.me/ exports to Wordpress, Blogger and other places
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://gplus-exporter.friendsplus.me/ exports to Wordpress, Blogger and other places" to the "See Also" section of /Google_Plus https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=55212&oldid=54573
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loqi.me
edited /IETF (+93) "Zegnat added "[https://write.as/365-rfcs/ reading one RFC a day in chronological order]" to "See Also""
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mrkapowski.com
created /User:Mrkapowski.com (+149) "Created page with "{{Infobox person |name = Chris McLeod |url = https://mrkapowski.com/ |photo_url = https://mrkapowski.com/wp-content/themes/k/assets/img/author.jpg }}""
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eddiehinkle.com
edited /2019-01-01-commitments (+159) "/* Eddie */ Update commitments"
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eddiehinkle.com
edited /2019-01-01-commitments (+98) "/* Eddie */ Fix commitment structure for clarity"
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@miklb
Yo, static site #indieweb folks, keep an eye on this PR https://github.com/voxpelli/webpage-micropub-to-github/issues/87 this will be relevant to my move to @eleven_ty too I think
(twitter.com/_/status/1080488212441808897)
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[manton]
I haven't had a chance to update the wiki yet, but we're pushing the Austin HWC to next week: Jan 9th. Too close to the new year and really bad weather in Austin anyway for our usual meetup spot.
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Loqi
[manton]: [tantek] left you a message 1 week, 1 day ago: would it be possible to do a half-day IWC Organizers meetup the Friday afternoon before IWC Austin? cc: GWG, gRegorlove, schmarty, aaronpk, et al
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Loqi
[manton]: [tantek] left you a message 22 hours, 13 minutes ago: is HWC Austin meeting up on 2019-01-09 by any chance? https://indieweb.org/events/2019-01-09-homebrew-website-club#Where
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GWG
Manton, need help for AUS? Already committed
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[manton]
Yes, I'm really behind getting everything set up for the web site and tickets!
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GWG
I booked my flight, so I am ready to help
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boffosocko.com
edited /Year_in_Review (+488) "Jeremy Keith example"
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robertvanbregt.nl
edited /Grav (+250) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ migrated to grav"
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@rodriguesmyron
I wrote a little post on reading to kick off my @microdotblog life on the #indieweb. Most pleasant writing->publishing experience ever with all markdown!
(twitter.com/_/status/1080538023647883264)
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[tantek]
I know I brainstormed somewhere about treating underscores in (non-numerical) hashtags as spaces in the equivalent "category" text and auto-markup but I can't seem to find where I captured it on the wiki!
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[tantek]
I know for sure I brought it up in chat, likely dev, and thought for sure I put it somewhere as a brainstorm, but couldn't find any evidence on any /tag /hashtag /tag-reply pages, or on IndieWeb Commitments
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[tantek]
oh looks like I briefly captured it here https://indieweb.org/2018-12-indieweb-challenge#Inspiration including a to-do to incorporate it into /hashtags#Brainstorming
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[tantek]
has anyone else ran into the challenge of wanting to "just" type a hashtag for a category/label that itself has spaces? (since hashtags can't have spaces)
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aaronpk
I tend to use mostly one word tags, but I would rather use hyphens anyway
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tantek.com
edited /Events (+27) "/* January */ +Austin on the 9th"
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[tantek]
aaronpk do you ever post new GitHub issues into a repo that has labels with spaces and want to add those labels directly from your indieweb /issue post?
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aaronpk
ahh hmm, I don't think that's ever come up for me
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[tantek]
this is about re-using categories/labels with spaces that someone else created in some space that you don't "control" per se
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[tantek]
I've run into this with CSSWG issues for example
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aaronpk
probably because I don't have a good way to know what labels the repo supports when I am writing the issue
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aaronpk
I would rather just add the label on github after the fact
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[tantek]
I'm guessing you would have run into this with SocialWG spec issues if you were owning your issues at the time
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aaronpk
also because I probably don't want my post tagged with that label on my site
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aaronpk
don't necessarily*
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[tantek]
"add the label on github after the fact" -> via a /tag-reply that you also post on your own site first then POSSE to GH? or just on GH?
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aaronpk
likely for the same reason that it's someone else's content
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aaronpk
just on GitHub
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[tantek]
hmm. I'm trying to "own my responses" even with /tag-reply posts
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[tantek]
sorta like owning my reacji to GH issues/comments
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aaronpk
I guess that just feels like organization of the repo content and not actually my own content
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aaronpk
github reactions I would be more inclined to own myself
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[tantek]
aaronpk if the repo or issue were *only* on someone's indieweb site, how would you add/remove labels/tags to it?
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Zegnat
I prefer to just use spaces in my tags when I want them. But I don’t use hashtags, so I don’t need a replacement for spaces
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[tantek]
how do you enter your tags? into a different text field than your content? by choosing from a popup list? other?
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[tantek]
(since I don't have a separate field, entering hashtags is how I enter tags)
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Zegnat
Separate field, they are comma separated rather than space separated
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Zegnat
Haven’t needed commas in my tags so far, haha
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[tantek]
yes that's another way to do it. Flickr style
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sknebel
same in quill (after some people asked for spaces support)
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Zegnat
But I do have the tag “Homebrew Website Club” with spaces
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[eddie]
I agree with aaronpk and Zegnat. I haven't run across the desire to add a GitHub label yet, I HAVE done GitHub reactions, and since I add my tags through a separate field, I could technically add a space if I wanted (although I haven't tested, so it might break things)
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[tantek]
Flickr's tag entry text field works like this: if there are commas, use them as separators between tags, otherwise use spaces as separators
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Zegnat
Hmm, I think everything I tagged Homebrew Website Club also has the tag IndieWeb, so that could work for me without accidentally breaking up the HWC one
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tantek.com
edited /Falcon (+1675) "/* Working On */ tags with spaces, use-case and two possible designs"
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tantek.com
edited /2018-12-indieweb-challenge (-226) "/* Inspiration */ move labels with spaces details to [[Falcon#tags_with_spaces]]"
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tantek.com
edited /autolink (+15) "auto-tag"
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tantek.com
created /auto-tag (+964) "stub auto-tag"
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tantek.com
edited /hashtags (+131) "/* Brainstorming */ subheads, add hashtags for tags with spaces for discoverability"
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[tantek]
capturing thoughts / work in progress here until I have a more clear / decisive design: /Falcon#tags_with_spaces
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[tantek]
currently strongly consider leaving single underscores alone (in general) and using a double-underscore in hashtags __ as a space in the equivalent tag/category
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[tantek]
also considering converting any *n_n* (number, single underscore, number) in a hashtag to *n-n*. Use-case is ISO dates (ordinal and gregorian), making their tag/category version more standard / human friendly (#YYYY_DDD -> YYYY-DDD, #dev YYYY_MM_DD -> YYYY-MM-DD)
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aaronpk
Wow this sounds way too complicated for me lol
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sknebel
nudges this conversation out of #meta
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aaronpk
I would never remember that lol
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tantek.com
edited /Falcon (+215) "/* tags with spaces */ note chat logs processed for ideas, move to reference section, example W3C Process "Needs Review" label"
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@manton2
Sorry for the late notice — no Homebrew Website Club in Austin tonight. Because of the holidays and weather, we’re pushing the meetup to next week. Jan 9th, 6:30pm at Mozart’s Coffee.
(twitter.com/_/status/1080584113738956801)
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chrisbeckstrom.com
created /User:Chrisbeckstrom.com (+883) "Created page with "<div class="p-summary">{{Infobox person |name = Chris Beckstrom |url = https://chrisbeckstrom.com |photo_url = https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/078f93e37485d82a3a9dfd72d06af...""
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@JamieTanna
The #IndieWeb is making its way officially to Nottingham with this month's @nottsjs https://www.meetup.com/NottsJS/events/qhnpfqyzcblb/ thanks to @hawx - really looking forward to this!
(twitter.com/_/status/1080588901448933377)
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tantek.com
edited /hostingnotes (+758) "SiteGround, notes from BT Berlin"
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chrisbeckstrom.com
edited /generations (+215) "/* Generation 1 / Generation 2 */"
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invisible.ch
created /User:Invisible.ch (+307) "Created page with "<span class="h-card">[https://invisible.ch/ Jens-Christian Fischer]</span> Old timer on the web, blogging since late 1990s, resurrected my blog beginning of 2019 and discover...""
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